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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two causes. first and predominant cause is that schools are passing everyone and doing so with As and A-s.  Secondary is learning loss from COVID.  A lot of kids missed out on the opportunity to learn fundamental math concepts.   [b]US math education is far behind the rest of the world.[/b] [/quote]

This is such BS. In the rest of the world, by the time you get to a school like Mason, those kids would be in trade school not college. People bash the US because we don't pressure kids to leave the college track early or just drop out and our over all scores reflect it. Meanwhile kids from countries that people love to praise fall over themselves to attend US universities [/quote]

NP.  While what you are saying is true, I think this is actually more of a philosophical debate as to whether the US is doing right by ANY students in our efforts to NOT “track” them.  The students who can’t learn math still won’t, and the kids who could learn math won’t because the resources are going towards pushing stones uphill.  Who does this benefit?[/quote]

This is a really interesting point, and something I wish were discussed more. It's something I think a lot about when discussing free college for all, to which I'm opposed because I believe it would merely water down college education, as US K-12 education standards have been lowered in our (valiant and worthy) attempts to avoid tracking or failing students.  There's an good discussion along these lines at https://www.quora.com/Why-is-free-universal-college-education-not-mandatory-If-an-economy-is-as-big-as-the-United-States-why-is-there-no-free-universal-college-educational-system[/quote]

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