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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Getting India onboard is easy —

But the us won’t do it.

Cut off Pakistan ties, fund India 50 billion a year in arms sales (Israel gets 30+ billion…India needs more if you want quad to be successful).

If the us cannot plug in russian weapon systems for India, India will chart a non-aligned path.

Remember — quad is extremely important for the us. Us will not burn India over Russian posture.

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This isn't a buy support scenario.  India is playing a dangerous game.  I get that they are just replaying their cold war playbook and that Putin held a meeting with Imran Khan on the forst day of the invasion.  It's morally reprehensible but it is what it is.  India should be taking note of how bad Russian weapons and systems are doing.  It's been an asbolutely humiliating product demonstration.  The new axis will be China/Russia versus North America/Europe/East Asia.  It's going to be hard to thread the needle.[/quote]

No, the U.S. has been playing a stupid and arrogant game with India. Who armed and paid and supported Pakistan (and, by extension, Pakistani terrorism in Kashmir) during the Cold War? Who undermined India's interests at every turn for literally years until the War on Terror? 
It was the U.S.

If you want Indian support, show it and do exactly what the previous PP said. Stop supporting Pakistani terrorism in Kashmir. Stop supporting Pakistan - the country that [i]sheltered bin Laden[/i] - at all, period. India does not owe the U.S. anything.[/quote]

Um no.  This isn't about the United States.  India is going to have a choice to make, as is every country.  This is about Dharma.

And for what it's worth, Pakistan is playing an even more dangerous game but is pretty much already on the other side.  Why else was Imran Khan in Moscow meeting with Putin as the invasion started?[/quote]

Let me go further and be more explicit.  India's two threats are Pakistan and China.  Both have territorial claims to land currently held by India and have started wars against India over those claims.  In addition, India hosts the Tibet government in exile.  Both Pakistan and China have aligned softly with Russia.  Pakistan would love a green light to invade Kashmir.  China wants it for Taiwan but Tibet is a secondary area of interest for it.  If Russia is successful it is open season on global territorial claims.  If Russia is partially successful then the world is going to break down into two spheres, China (with Russia as a vassal) and the West (including Japan etc).  Pakistan is at this point completely indebted to China and China will have a huge naval base in Baluchistan.  India will be isolated in that situation.  Nehru's Non-Aligned Movement and protectionist economics held India back during the Cold War.  India's renaissance has been contingent on the post-cold war order.  In a cold war 2.0 situation it's two main adversaries have teamed up.  Russia won't service its second rate weapons if something happens with Pakistan or China.  Low cost Turkish drones are decimating them anyway.  It is very much in India's long term geopolitical interest to align with the West before it is too late.  The opportunity to do that is now.

It's also the right thing to do morally.  [/quote]

+100. They will try to walk the neutral path for as long as possible, but at the end of the day, India is not stupid. This time, India will align with the West. There are also a shit ton of wealthy Indian-Americans/NRIs who actually do have some sway in the politics back home. [/quote]

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