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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll get the ball rolling

I'll listen if people take ownership for their behavior and quit playing the victim card
I'll listen if people quit blaming cops and blame the thugs and ghetto idiots of all races who cause all these problems

A quick caveat what happened in MN from initial reports is jacked up.  We need to wait until the final investigation to jump to any conclusions.
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Ummm, when people are shot dead by the police after being stopped for a "routine" traffic stop I don't know how they are "playing the victim".  Aren't they an actual victim in that case?  Oh sorry, you must mean when the police make excuses that it is a difficult job so if they kill someone that has the same skin color as someone that has committed a crime even though the person they kill has not committed a crime and the person that has is still out there ...

I see a separate issue of being why do people commit a crime.  Understand, the individuals killed were not committing crimes ...that is exactly why people are protesting.  If the police had killed a violent criminal people you would not have this outrage.  I'm sorry if you don't see the difference.  I can't help you there.  But I guess if that is your criteria for "listening" that means you really don't want to listen.  As to why people commit crimes and how to reduce crime that is a different discussion.  IMHO, those issues aren't something that a single person can tackle.  Poverty, lack of opportunities, addictions, mental illness, easy access to weapons etc.  Yes, there is evil, yes there is greed and there will always be people in ideal situations that will still committ crimes.  But is there something that could have been done that could have influenced a person's trajectory so they wouldn't end up committing a crime ..don't know.  And could I, not related to this person in any way, have changed the outcome, tell me how?  But since your criteria for listening is for me to personally solve world peace, end poverty, end hunger, etc. again, I would argue you have no interest in listening.  Oh, and lest you think I am saying that the person that commits a crime shouldn't be held accountable, that is not what I am saying.  I'm saying at that point there is a victim (the victim of the crime), high odds the person will return to crime and have less opportunity to be a productive citizen meaning there will be later victims.  Accountability is a poor comfort for the person that has been a victim, better is figuring out how it could have been prevented.[/quote]

I have no idea who the heck you are.

Accountability is the only way issues are ever resolved.  Accontability from the black community and the police department.  Within the black community too many people keep making excuses.  Bill Cosby is a sumbag but he was right on its time for the ghetto black community to man up and deal with their crap.  The police department also has to deal with crap.  Some examples get rid of asshole cops and work on refrom similar to what the Dallas Police Deparmtnet has done.

[b]Now I will shift to BLM and I will argue that the organization is doing more harm than good and actually even hurting the community they are looking to help.  Much like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson they fan the flames of blaming other instead of taking personal responsibility for situations like actually getting lives together.  [/b]Quit doing drugs, commiting crimes.  Stay in school and act like a normal member of society.

Almost all the situations trumpeted by the BLM have multiple issues at play.  If innocent people were being gunned down in cold blood I would be protesting.  Instead almost all of these incidents there is fault on BOTH SIDES.  In the cases where the police are clearly at fault they have been prosecuted and faced charges.  In many of these other cases the actual facts show a very mixed picture on what actually occured.  The case in MN is a perfect example of the actual facts painting a much bigger picture than what the gf and MSM lapped up as truth.

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You should be proud. You are in the same league as the South Afrikannas during Apartheid and the George Wallace's during the Civil Rights movement. They mouthed your same words and sentiments. The exact same sentiment. [/quote]

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