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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey gun experts ... care to enlighten us about the effective firing range of an AR15 in comparison to something like a Beretta?  Then tell us some more about which is more appropriate for "home defense" or "self defense" against "bad guys."  [/quote]

I think most people would be totally fine with taking away AR-15s.  The only point people are TRYING to make is that this wouldn't have a huge impact.  [/quote]

+1.  It wouldn't have any meaningful impact whatsoever.  Orlando shooter would still have killed many, many people if armed with semi-auto pistols.

People focusing on the type of gun used are hindering discussion of meaningful solutions (and adding counterproductive snark to the conversation).

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Can you offer a meaningful solution?  How are you hoping to help?[/quote]

There have been quite a few offered above.  To summarize, I'd argue as others have that the focus should be on controlling access to firearms:

[b]1.  Universal background checks
2.  Mandatory training (another poster's suggestion)
3.  Federal licensing (another poster's suggestion)
4.  Criminal liability for negligent storage of firearms
5.  Criminal liability for negligent or reckless sale/transfer of firearms to third party[/b]

If effectively enforced, these could help tremendously.  [/quote]

np. They could certainly help against the many tragic cases of three-year-olds shooting themselves or others. But none of them would have stopped any of the famous mass shootings we've endured.

(Republican, gun-control moderate, don't own any guns)[/quote]

Retard. Mateen was a security guard who had no prior arrests. How the f* did you expect those rules to stop the massacre?[/quote]

Nice.  The 12 year-olds have joined the fray.

Who said that transfer restrictions/liability need be limited to those previously arrested? 
Would the Orlando shooter have gone through a federal licensing/training regimen?
Would the FBI have been able to flag him if he'd done so?

It's quite possible that the proposals above--if aggressively enacted and effectively enforced--would have prevented the Orlando murders.[/quote]

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