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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because the gay bakery/Christian cake issue was a set-up , i.e. a man posing as a Christian conservative went to gay bakers and asked them to make such a cake, And video'd the responses. Trust me, those responses got absolutely vicious. And they refused to make the cake. Funny how it works when the tables are turned. So you are making a distinction because you don't like the idea of a cake saying something like "I don't support gay marriage", saying the gay baker should not be made to create that, because to you, it's some form of discriminatory hate speech. That's a complete red herring. I mean, it's just a cake. In truth, they are both just cakes.. So if the Christian baker must make the gay couple's cake, the gay baker also bakes cakes for a living, so he should made to bake it and write what the Christians want on it, especially if it's a Christian activists' wedding, and that's what they want on their cake. Or maybe even the words "Marriage is between a man and a woman". The gay baker should be forced to make it because he bakes cakes for a living, just like the Christian baker[/quote] I do draw a distinction when there are words on the cake, because many businesses which print messages will refuse to print highly offensive messages, not because they are discriminating against any protected group, but rather because the particular message is highly offensive. For example, I suspect most bakers (gay or straight) would refuse to make a cake that reads "I like to rape children" or "hitler was right." When you put an offensive message on the cake, it's a individual item and sort of like forced speech. I saw the videos you're talking about, and there was even one from Oregon. In that one, the gay baker offered to make the cake, and sell the icing to the customer so he could write the words himself; she just didn't want to write the words. Seems pretty reasonable to me. To flip the situation, if a gay couple came to a Christian baker asking for a cake shaped like two big penises and the words "I like cock," I'd agree with you that the baker could refuse. But if it's just a basic ordinary wedding cake,there's no basis to refuse without violating the law. [/quote]
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