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70 percent of the white student body will fail this test, and up to 95 percent of black, Hispanic and special needs students will fail. [/quote]

How can you possibly know these numbers about a test that is only in pilot form?  And what a sad statement about public education in America if this was true.[/quote]

Because that is what has happened in every state that rolled out Common Core, then tested their kids on it. [/quote]

Every state = 2. Kentucky and New York. Neither of the states used the two main Common Core-aligned tests (PARCC and Smarter Balanced), because those tests won't be ready until next year (this year they're getting field-tested). In Kentucky, it's pretty clear that one of the reasons so many kids failed is because their education was not as good as it should be. And the New York so-called "Common Core" curriculum is full of stuff that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Common Core.[/quote]

Add North Carolina to the mix. Their results were the same as Kentucky and New York.

One person who worked on the Common Core ELA standards said they were designed for the top 30 percent of students, not the entire student population. And that is exactly the percentage who passes them. Hardly a coincidence. [/quote]

Seems like you've made up your mind prior to the standards even being put into place (and certainly before the national standardized tests are in place)).  That's fine, but own up to it.   Frankly I don't think higher standards are bad, clearly you do.  I think more kids lose interest in school out of boredom than too much challenge.  But I don't think you can judge common core on the data that is currently available [b]-- it will take 5 to 10 years to have a clear pictur[/b]e[/quote]

5 to 10 years -- and an entire generation's education down the toilet.

You act like the standards are any good. There is ZERO PROOF that they are better.   And for kids with language disabilities, they make every party of the curriculum unattainable. That is what my child is experiencing right now.

Why are you such a gullible believer? They trot out standards, and you are immediately on your knees worshipping them. They are a fad, just like Everyday Math and New Math. [/quote]

Have you actually read the standards?  I have.  There really isn't much to criticize there in my opinion.   As I said before, my kids are in a common core district.  It isn't really that different that the curriculum before (in Maryland but not Montgomery county).  I think that the standards should be geared towards what the majority of the kids can do and they will need to find  to make it work for those with learning disabilities via exceptions or otherwise.  However, I don't think you bore the other seventy five percent of the class No Child Left Behind style.

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Yes, I've read the standards, and they are rife with problems. Close reading is totally unproven -- Good God, the clueless children that will come out of that curriculum!

Most of the math standards are problematic because they insist on explaining in great detail in abstract terms at young ages with writing skills well beyond their ability. Until middle school, kids are concrete thinkers. These standards insist they be abstract thinkers well before the time that they are biologically wired to do so. It's like asking a fish to fly.

Many of the issues are in the "fine print" of the appendixes.   Those rachet up the reading levels sky high. There are reports of the PARCC test for 3rd graders being at an S, T, U reading level --- even though they should be at about N-O.

The other thing is, all bets are off the table for your district's curriculum next year. Here's how this is going to go: Kids will take the PARCC next year. Almost everyone will fail. There will be an uproar. Your school district will panic and buy Pearson's curriculum -- because it's also been well reported that Pearson is inserting its prefab curriculum as the basis for its tests. And on the cycle goes, until parents go to the polls and vote out the politicians who signed up for this boatload of crap.

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Keep hoping because it isn't going to happen.
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