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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many things can be true at once. But research has demonstrated that the internet, "smart"phones and now AI have had a pernicious effect on student learning, all of which has been compounded by covid; the fact that reading is no longer a habitual pastime for most students; and, driven by entitled snowplow parents, both rampant grade inflation and heavy regimentation of extracurriculars and time outside school. The result, as other profs already have mentioned in this thread, has been that students matriculating at college today have nowhere near the critical analytical skills with which they entered college thirty years ago and predictably are incapable of handling the workloads and meeting the academic standards that were prevalent then. [/quote]

If I was a T30, I would say due to this I would want to pull from rigorous privates more and more, the ones where they know there's a track record and do all they can to keep rigor. Ours is relentless to the point where parents and kids complain, until college admit season and kids doing well...[/quote]

Yes, PP. Let’s just write off the kids whose families can’t afford “rigorous privates” or who live in areas where no such schools are available. 🙄

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Or maybe we actually start pushing the public school system to be accountable rather than easy.[/quote]
Families with means will simply exit for easy private schools. (Surely even the feeder-school advocates can acknowledge that their elite schools are remarkable, precious outliers not typical of every private school in the country.) And the elite colleges will not be able to ignore the students at pay-to-play privates, because they will make up a large percentage of families who are willing and able to pay full sticker price. [/quote]

That may be but the kids will be better off. Far too many kids are unprepared because they were never encouraged to push themselves.[/quote]

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