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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many things can be true at once. But research has demonstrated that the internet, "smart"phones and now AI have had a pernicious effect on student learning, all of which has been compounded by covid; the fact that reading is no longer a habitual pastime for most students; and, driven by entitled snowplow parents, both rampant grade inflation and heavy regimentation of extracurriculars and time outside school. The result, as other profs already have mentioned in this thread, has been that students matriculating at college today have nowhere near the critical analytical skills with which they entered college thirty years ago and predictably are incapable of handling the workloads and meeting the academic standards that were prevalent then. [/quote]

If I was a T30, I would say due to this I would want to pull from rigorous privates more and more, the ones where they know there's a track record and do all they can to keep rigor. Ours is relentless to the point where parents and kids complain, until college admit season and kids doing well...[/quote]

Yes, PP. Let’s just write off the kids whose families can’t afford “rigorous privates” or who live in areas where no such schools are available. 🙄

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Yep, and that’s exactly how you end up with a student body with zero grit or creativity.[/quote]

Keep telling yourself that when the public school kids take their 3rd test retake and all of Calc BC gets B+ or higher, without guardrail entry.[/quote]

Interesting that you think this is solely a public school phenomenon. Excessive retakes and grade inflation are a feature of many privates, not to mention a majority of the student body having accommodations. Do you even have a kid in private? [/quote]

I do, and this is not true at ours. Even if you have an accommodation, they absolutely still expect the work to be done. Most top privates can "counsel out" severe underperformers.[/quote]

You may or may not know everything that is happening at your school. It is true that some privates maintain high standards, but many do not. So it is not inherently a public vs. private school issue. When I referenced accommodations, I was referring to the recent trend of students who have them not because of need but because their parents purchased a diagnosis. This is measurably more a private school problem, but can also be observed at public schools in wealthy areas. [/quote]

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