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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d rather live in any of those places than here. The universal healthcare alone would be a relief. [/quote]

Exactly. [/quote]

a relief from what, available heatlhcare and quality? Yes it may be expensive but remember we make like twice the amount of europe and its doesn't cost as much comapred to the taxes on income. [/quote]

Available healthcare? What are you talking about? You think there aren’t LONG waitlists in the US?[/quote]

Autism evaluation for your child is a two year waiting list min. in the DMV. Excluding the long waitlist for services there after. 1 in 5 kids now need mental health evaluation/ support. [/quote]

Stats;
Approximately 1 in 5 children (21%) ages 3 to 17 in the U.S. has a diagnosed mental, emotional, or behavioral health condition, according to CDC data.
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Well, here is the thing. In cases involving mental health or autism related needs, if you do not want to wait for in network availability, you can often see someone almost immediately by going out of network, paying out of pocket up front, and then getting reimbursed afterward. That is exactly what we do for things that are extremely urgent.

[b]The difference is that in the U.S. you actually have options.[/b] Many out of network plans still reimburse around 75 to 80% depending on your coverage. So yes, it can cost more, but you are not completely stuck waiting on a centralized system to decide when you are allowed to receive care.

Under government run or single payer systems, there often is no alternative path. You wait in line, and if the system decides your case is not urgent enough, you simply wait longer.[/quote]

FTFY-In the USA, you have options [b]if you are rich enough to  pay out of pocket for someone out of network.[/b]  But if you are poor enough that you have to take what is in-network, offered by Medicaid etc., you're not going to do well.

Which is why the data show the US has a lower life expectancy (5-9 years lower depending on the US state) than several European countries and higher mortality rates.

The PP is happy to be able to do the end run around the health care system because the PP has money to do so.  But as a system as a whole, US health care is failing big segments of the population.  
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