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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There was a more humane solution but ICE preferred to detain the child.

“School board member Mary Granlund said she was on the scene and told immigration officials she could take Liam Ramos, but they still detained him.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyrrqwxpz7o

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You can't just hand over a child to someone because they asked for them.  If you were taken to jail for whatever reason, should the police give your kid to a school board member? [/quote] what? A child is not going to prison with their parents if they committed a crime..  did the father have an opportunity to place a child with another adult? Actions/policies need to be protective of the child.. [/quote]

she probably has other children to protect.  If she had come out and they took her, there would be children left alone. Or grabbed too.  And perhaps it was the 15 year old girl inside the house that made the family flee the cartels.  Opening the door would mean that girl wold be sent back to be raped. Have you read about cartels?

No he did not.  Just like if any US local law enforcement arrests a parent, that child can't just go home with anyone who asks for them.  There are procedures, none of which include a school board member. [/quote]

Yes, typically these are jump out the bushes, operations, and the person would be given an opportunity to turn themselves in but since he hadn't been charged with anything and no warrant was issued, I suppose they didn't think to call child protective services, so that a social worker could take the child into a very temporary foster home, 100% no one is hauling a child who is here legally, as this child was, off to prison with his parent.

Even if the parent committed a crime which this parent didn't, they would still call in child services to take custody of the child. Until the other parent or closest relative could be contacted.

True story. I had a medical emergency there was no other family available to call who could be at my house in quick order, and DH was traveling and couldn't be reached. 100% the paramedics were fine with me leaving my son with a neighbor while I sought medical treatment, For, what it's worth, had I died, or had I been hospitalized for an extended period of time, a family member couldn't be reached the next step would have been foster care. Again, you people are delusional if you still don't get that the cruelty is the point.

Your dear leaders are belatedly starting to figure out that kidnapping chubby faced toddlers in fuzzy bunny ear hats and shooting people in the face isn't a cruelty that the average American will accept. It just makes for very bad optics. So, question is why do you? What's in it for you? Is someone paying you to turn a blind eye. i can understand greed, it abhorrent, but I get it. What I don't get is what kind of monster t ries to look for ways to make this okay.

You people are nuts. [/quote]

You are the one that is nuts. 
Had they called CPS, you would be accusing them of separating the child from the parents. 
IOW - they can't win in your eyes. [/quote]

Calling CPS, a non-law enforcement agency would have been the right thing to do. They would have reached out to find the other parent. And this child would be in his mother's warm embrace right now. Or they could have also followed the law and not done a jump out the bushes, gorilla style assault on the father, they could you know followed the law, but I guess it's to late for that. So instead of being at home tucked in with his mom. He's in a cold hard prison in Texas.

How much do you think all of this is going to cost us, all of this violating people's rights, you know all of this will come out at some point and much like family separation a lot of money will be paid out in damages for these abuses. People are going to jail. Trump won't have time to pardon them all while he's lying on his death bed. And when he finally dies, Repubs just might be ready to wash the stink off. Yep, gobs and gobs of monies will be disbursed and lots of folks are going to jail.

It's going to be ugly I tell you, they will wish they'd just followed the law when all is said and done. [/quote]

What kind of mother hides in the house and watches her child be taken away?
Wouldn't you follow your kid to hell itself so they wouldn't be frightened and alone?

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