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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I do wonder how this will change students' applications in the future. Asian students are definitely deserving of these seats, but it's just true that a high concentration of Asians changes the campus culture. Asian students tend to intensify the academic environment but are more introverted and aren't as involved in sports or parties. This fundamentally alters the college experience. If the entire T20 becomes plurality Asian, my general guess is that many affluent white families will stop valuing these schools so much because they tend to really care about the overall "college experience." Far more white kids are going to opt for the SEC or B10 experience over the private T20s. [/quote] Doubtful. Whites haven't stopped applying to and going to the UCs as a result of Asian invasion[/quote] Actually in CA they have. If you look at the strong privates in CA (which is where affluent white kids go) you will see far lower numbers attending top UCs. They are opting for OOS privates because of the crazy admissions process, crowded campuses and poor housing situation. Middle class white kids are still attending the UCs.[/quote] False. The real reason is the top privates do horrendously in UC admissions. You likely don't even know this exists: https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/about-us/information-center/admissions-source-school UC enrollment has been going up for several top privates like Nueva, Menlo, Harker. Admissions is low however.[/quote] PP: I know that material well, extremely well in fact. I also know the A-G requirements, ninth grade exclusion (not at SLO), ELC implications (local and state), etc. whatever you would like to talk about. I can tell you exactly why Stanley Zhong was shut out as well...hint, he had a terrible transcript for UC requirements. I also know that your hypothesis is totally incorrect. I also know that multiple large privates in the Bay Area actually suggest to kids that they not apply to the top UCs unless they actually want to attend because the number of slots they end up with is pretty consistent or fixed depending on your POV. So top kids getting slots that won't yield hurts others at the school who would yield. Why do you think admissions are low? The top kids generally aren't applying unless they are Asian. They are choosing top privates instead though a few will go for other subjects. Also, many of the Asian kids from the schools that you mention go top Private as well. The UCs are far more interesting to Asian Public school kids in the Bay Area.[/quote] Show me Stanley’s transcript. why was it “bad for UCs” when he had a top gpa[/quote] HIs transcript is in the pleading appendix, go look it up. Top GPA is meaningless somewhere like Gunn, the school is full of top GPA kids. He barely covered his A-G requirements, his covering classes outside of of Math often lacked rigor (Honors vs AP from a school like Paly is the "kiss of death" for a top UC) and his load wasn't balanced. He either: 1. Got terrible advice from the counselors which given it was Gunn that he went to. 2. His family ignored the counselors advice believing that peak test scores were actually all that really mattered. His application wasn't aligned to UC (or most elite) admissions at all. Given the two schools that he did get into there were schools willing to see his CS potential and overlook the rest of the deficiencies but that isn't generally a winning bet. His case has zero chance of success.[/quote] +1 His case has zero chance. His GPA, as reported by his parents, isn't the UC calculation. UC's only look at 10th and 11th year grades, Stanley got a B in 10th grade, that right there puts him below at least 30 kids in his own high school and literally 100's from the local area public and private high schools. Plus as the prior poster points out he didn't have max rigor in all subjects as required. [/quote] https://clearinghouse-umich-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/doc/157820.pdf His GPA was a 3.97 UW and 4.583 weighted. This was top 1% in his class. You all have to be clueless jokers.[/quote] That is not his UC GPA, and he was top 9% percent of his class, not top 1% for the UC's. Cal and UCLA admitted several of his higher ranked high school peers.[/quote] Incorrect. He was top 9% according to ELC but ELCs only state whether you are top 9% of your class. Not any higher. So he likely was top 1% with that gpa.[/quote] Yes, he was top 9% from his high school by UC calculation (that is literally dozens of kids at Gunn). That guaranteed him a spot at UC Merced. He was not the valedictorian etc. that B pulls him into the lower portion of the 9% cohort. He got passed over by other, higher placed Asians [/quote] Figures you dont know what you’re talking about https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1696538432/pausdorg/vkkgz0nal1ardiyajxr6/gunnprofile2023-202410-5-23.pdf Gunn’s top gpa was a 4.522 weighted this past year. Stanley’s weighted was a 4.58. It’s inconceivable he was bottom of top 9%. More likely he was top of his class Again, he was top 9% by UC, but not the top of that of that group. Stop looking at his weighted GPA on a transcript that a) using 9th/12th grade which UC"s don't and b) doesn't cap the impact of AP's (UC's only give weighting to a maximum of 8 classes). [/quote][/quote] take a look at the placement. https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary more than 10% of the class (43 to 45 people) go to top 20 colleges - some far more selective than Cal instate. Stanley like got rejected due to what i see as lackluster essays. Not due to his uc gpa at all[/quote] But not because he is Asian . . . [/quote] Maybe, maybe not. I say we drown them in litigation until they stop trying to create racially diverse calsses.[/quote]
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