Reply to Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?

Forum Index » College and University Discussion

Reply to "Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like a lot of the public flagship colleges, OOS students subsidize in state students.

Some are limited by policy, others welcome as many full pay students as they can.

Michigan has almost 40,000 undergraduates which allows it to admit a large cohort of lower stat students (roughly 75% of Michigan students don't submit an SAT or score below 1360)  It is a win win for the university. It gets more dollars and gives more access to lower perfoming students.[/quote]

^this. UVA does the same for OOS. At University of Virginia, the total cost is $44,180 for in-state students and $81,969 for out-of-state students.

UMich OOS costs about the same OOS UVA. UMich>UVA in a lot of program.[/quote]

UVA offers OOS students need-based financial aid. UMich does not.[/quote]
Both UVA and UMich offer need-based aid to OOS students. UVA promises to meet full need OOS, whereas UMich does not. Both are need-aware for OOS admission.[/quote]

The effect of this is that if a family makes $100k and their student is accepted to both UVA and Michigan OOS, they will receive substantial grant aid from UVA, and nothing (other than federal loans and work study) from Michigan.[/quote]
That is not accurate. UMich is apparently choosey about who it offers full aid to, but it will offer full need-based aid to [i]some [/i]low income OOS students. Try the Net Price Calculator. The caveat with UMich is that anecdotes from last admission season sound like UMich may be offering less than in the past.

By reputation, no public university, including UVA, will offer aid as generous as a private, when it comes to net prices. UVA and UNC theoretically meet full need but will define that differently.[/quote]
Adding, following last season, it would not surprise me if UMich stopped offering need-based aid OOS. I was posting mostly to clarify that UMich indeed is one of the exceptions to the rule that public universities do not offer institutional grants to OOS students.[/quote]

PP here (Michigan alum with 2025 DC Michigan grad).  From anecdotal info from DC's friends and reading Reddit, etc., Michigan indeed is very stingy with need-based aid unless the applicant is extremely outstanding in their view.

Other DC is at UVA, and anecdotal info from that DC's friends and Reddit indicate that UVA is indeed more generous.

Finally, my sister went to Cornell, so here's my two cents on comparing these schools.

UVA tries to incorporate many aspects of private university culture in how it operates, e.g., "grounds", "first year", orientation for both incoming students and their parents.  Communication with UVA has been very good, and the vibe on campus is more like a private university.   The OOS students tend to be UMC WASPy types from the NE and South (which is what Jefferson intended), but since they are only 1/3 of the undergraduates, they don't distort the social dynamics.

Michigan makes virtually no such effort  after your DC gets in. This is a very large school, and DC will need to be a self-starter to succeed.   The university is 50/50 instate/OOS, and the major differences between the populations in terms of income and ethnicity (with OOS having a lot of Jews and Asians from the coasts and Chicago) create some mild tensions in the social dynamics.

Cornell felt like a bit more of a grinder school.  The weather and environment are downers as well.  However, my sister was very happy with the education and experience she got at Cornell. She even took a seminar with Carl Sagan and a course on wine tasting (for credit!) at the hotel school.  You couldn't get that elsewhere.

Academics are pretty comparable at the three places. Each will have some marginal comparative advantage over the others, but that shouldn't be the decisive criteria for selecting among the three.  Fit is very important for all three places, with $ of course being an important consideration.  For the second DC, UVA was only slightly "worse" reputation-wise overall than Michigan, and for DC's intended major, UVA had better or similar  reputation.

So, again, YMMV.  [/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics