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They want all this other crap for the same reason banks used to hand out toasters, because there was a limit on how much you could pay out in interest on deposits so the banks gave you a toaster instead.  There is a limit on how finely the SATs will select at the right end of the curve so they look to other indicators that you are in the 0.1%[/quote]

But that is the point- GPA and super high SAT score won't do it.  They are required but not sufficient.  I think people don't understand the daunting statistics.  Yes, SAT in mid 1500 is top 1% but that is still ~20k kids and its 40k if you move the needle to 1500.  Ignoring GPA because those are inflated and difficult to compare across thousands of high schools. Either way that is more "qualified" applicants than there are spots at the "Ivy +"[/quote]

It's because there is a limit.  The limit might be their own doing but they have limited the one tool that would give them a finer filter because they didn't like who was getting filtered out.[/quote]

“They” meaning the colleges? The college board did the redesign and I’m not sure who was responsible. I am guessing that it is partly just business: the less onerous the test, the more “studyable” it is, the more people will pay to take it. Colleges are not really in the business of designing nationwide tests like SAT/ACT, but as a college prof in the sciences, I personally prefer the older, more logic based verbal section. The grade inflation seems to be a systemic high school problem. Some people are angry college admissions offices weight non-metric qualities so highly but they kind of have to because of the severe weakness of the standard metrics. [/quote]

The college board didn't dilute their product because they wanted it to be more preppable by the students that pay for it.  They did so because their actual customers, college admissions offices were not happy with the results.  The racial and gender disparity became more obvious at the higher scores.

A 1520 in early 90ss put you in the top 1000 nationwide.  1600s were so rare that it was in the single digits.  These days there are about 1000 perfect scores every year.

A 1600 today translates to about a 1510+ in the early 90s.  A 1550 is somewhere around a 1470.  Still high scoring but there are 10,000 kids with better scores.
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