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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many of my friend's kids go to sought after prIvate schools in CA and they would love for their kids to go to UCB. Unlike the PP, they say other than a handful of schools they would rather pay instate. Yes, its a big school but CA seems to have amazing options from UCs, CSU, and CC. I wish NY had such choices. There is no need to bash or look down on a school that consistently shows up in top 20 in most rankings, has great brand recognition, is in top 5 for most majors, is diverse and serves the people of its state well. [/quote] +1[/quote] Posters: Berkeley is a great school and all, especially in-state, but not Ivy quality. Response: How dare you bash this school! [/quote] Someone said it is comparable to UVA however the overall experience is probably better at UVA. This sounds right. If you care about a specific academic department ranking above all else, then we are happy for you to attend Berkeley.[/quote] In trying to make an assessment of a school it’s very difficult to evaluate things like “experience”. Do you survey the undergrads, rely on your niece etc, tell apart fact from fiction etc. At least department rankings have a better semblance of objective measures and capture how the industry sees the school. In my view that’s better correlated with professional success than experience, but to each their own.[/quote] There is nothing subjective about class availability, number of students in lectures, size of small groups with faculty teaching, guaranteed on-campus housing, endowment size, amount of money the university spends per student, on-campus recruiting, average salary and employment after graduation.[/quote] For a lot of students choosing Berkeley, the most attractive aspect is access to working on cutting edge research because that can translate into a great job at the companies that will eventually commercialize the research which is a huge advantage in the job market. By this metric Berkeley is absolutely on par with HYPSM. You don’t get that at UVA, SLACS etc. Year it’s more grindy, and classes are big, but in the end you’re putting up with it. I don’t care that the physics recitation has one TA for 10 students and they explain the problem set three times if you need to, I care about working on gene therapy while in undergrad so I can get an internship at the startup that will be bought by Pfizer. [/quote] You are kidding yourself if you think that is common. Undergraduates are virtually useless in labs. They don't know anything and they get in the way of the graduate students actually doing the work. Berkely is absolutely one of the best graduate schools but it's not where I would want to be if I was a remotely typical student.[/quote]
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