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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.

Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.[/quote]

+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm. [/quote]

You can take as many personal shots as you like.  I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:

How you believers often won't answer simple questions.

I am not saying your beliefs are wrong.  I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them.  If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue.  This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?

I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM.  Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.[/quote]

Many non-believers do believe that believers are "wrong"...hence the use of terms like "idiots", "sheep", etc. etc. to describe them, as well as terms like "sky fairies" to poke fun at someone's beliefs.  Don't ask believers to "grow up", when non-believers are also exhibiting childish behavior that you apparently don't like.

The justification is Faith.  Period.  Either you accept that, or you don't.[/quote]

I don't accept that.  I did, for a long time.  I had religious faith too.  Then I thought about it, very seriously, and studied it, as I have studied many subjects.  I realized that I really wanted to go to heaven and live forever. And eventually, I realized that heaven made no sense.[/quote]

I’m sorry, but this gets such an eye roll from me.  You studied many subjects and eventually discovered that thousands of years of philosophy have been wrong, and the only thing that makes sense is that you are the most important being in the universe.

Okay.

Thank you for sharing your story with the rest of us peons.  Why would we be spending any time reading the story of God when we could be learning more about YOU, pp?

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DP. Yes thousands of years of outdated beliefs have been proven wrong when better methods/knowledge were discovered. I'm sorry you can't see that. I'm glad that I did see that finally in HS learning how the world actually works (at a catholic school nonetheless!).

-signed huge science/astronomy nerd fascinated with the origins of the universe[/quote]

Sure.  We can change our beliefs about the observable universe with new information.  I also like science/astronomy.  I have an MD and a PhD in neuroscience.  But as many people have said, faith and God are outside of our observation unless we look within ourselves.

I don’t think it’s an accident that the pp did “some reading” and concluded that it was impossible that there ever has been, is now, or could ever be, anything more important than herself.  I’m sure that she needed that belief for some reason.  But I very much doubt that most people who did the “reading” that she did would come to the same conclusion she did!  The fact that you can’t believe in God, but you have complete faith in that poster’s conclusions is ridiculous.

The only reason I can imagine you would believe her is that it confirms your own needed belief that there is nothing bigger or more important than yourself and no reason to do anything other than what you feel like doing.  
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How convenient to think that faith and God are outside of our observation unless we look within ourselves![/quote]

Whatever.  You say that you want more proof, but if God came down here Himself and told you that there He existed and there is something in the Universe that mattered more than you do, you wouldn’t believe Him.  
So what do you expect anyone else to say?

You can’t let go of your belief in your own divinity and you aren’t even willing to try.   There is no reason to argue with you.

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There is at least one religious person here who thinks that atheists think they ARE god.  Don't know where they got that idea as I've never heard it said by an atheist, and would not expect to, as atheists don't believe in gods.

To repeat: Atheists don't think they are god.  Atheists don't believe in gods.

Atheists don't have a religion.  Maybe they once did, but they don't now.

Other than that, they are like everyone else - some are ugly, some are handsome, tall or short, mean or nice, fat or thin, Democrat or Republican (e.g., Trump).[/quote]

I didn’t say that you believe you are God.  I said that you believe there is, never has been, and never could be, anything more important than yourself.

Are you saying that there is something more important than yourself?

What is it?

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