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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP,

I used to make Xmas cookies and I would bring some to the office.  I made stars and trees usually.  The star cookie cutter I had was a 6 pointed star.  I liked it b/c it was a little different than the usual 5 point star.  Anyway, I sprinkled the trees with green sprinkles and the stars with yellow sprinkles b/c stars have yellow light -- right?.  My closest friends at the office were all Jewish.  I never thought that the yellow sprinkles on the 6 point stars might have a negative connection to the Holocaust, but I think someone (might not have been someone at work) told me that it was a bad idea and offensive.

Would you be offended by Christmas cookies that are 6 point stars with yellow sprinkles on white frosting?  Am I so clueless that I'm anti-semetic by accident?[/quote]

http://history1900s.about.com/od/holocaust/a/yellowstar.htm[/quote]

Yes, PP I AM aware of the yellow star of David being used during WWII to identify the Jews.  I was aware of that at the time I made the cookies.  I just never connected making Christmas cookies in the shape of a star with the Holocaust b/c I don't think about the Holocaust much.  I just looked at it as a star cookie and I sprinkled it yellow b/c stars are yellow.  My question is not whether yellow six-pointed stars are connected to the Holocaust, but whether OP (or others) would have made that connection upon seeing a plate of cookies -- some of which were trees sprinkled in green -- and whether OP (or others) would take offense at seeing said cookies.[/quote]

I wouldn't describe you as racist so much as clueless.  Yeah, yellow is a pretty color, and the sun is a star, and it's yellow, and 6 point stars are a nice change from 5 points, but then the yellow six-point star was used to mark 6 million or so Jews for gassing and burning. So yeah, if you don't see how using yellow 6 point stars as pretty Christmas decorations is insensitive, you are pretty fucking clueless.[/quote]

The six-pointed star is called the "Star of Creation" in Christianity and is associated with the six days of creation.  It is often used in religious paintings of Jesus to signify his divinity as part of the Holy Trinity.  The star that appeared over Bethlehem is also often depicted as a six-pointed star for this reason.  Our Christmas tree at church is topped by a six-pointed yellow star.  I imagine that this is the reason that the PP found a Christmas cookie cutter with six points.  Symbols can mean different things to different people and in different contexts, so I don't think it is necessary to call the PP "pretty fucking stupid" for using a well-known symbol of Christmas to celebrate Christmas. [/quote]

The swastika has a long history of benevolent usage as well, eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Historical_use_in_the_East .  It would be pretty fucking stupid to use a swastika and, again, if PP doesn't see why some Jews were offended by using the symbol used to mark Jews for extermination, she is pretty fucking clueless.[/quote]

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