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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Per the other thread, W&M Econ dept doesnt publish much. Not that it matters. But based purely on prestige of Econ depts, St Andrews focus on Macro and Finance is top notch. W&M is focused elsewhere. It depends on what DC wants to do with an Econ degree. I don think any body here can answer that question for you without more context into the reason for wanting to study Econ, what Econ areas does your DC want to focus on. Plans post undergrad? Masters/Phd research route? Or Business route? Internationally or in the US? Hard to simply say one or the other without any perspective other than what we know about both depts….[/quote]

Ehhh I agree with the questions but St Andrews is not really a heavy hitter in econ either. A lot of this choice just boils down to location.[/quote]

Seems like St Andrews Econ program is in good company - https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/economics

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Yes, we discussed that on the previous page, that isn’t a ranking of econ departments so much as a ranking of undergrad experience by subject studied.[/quote]

You are wrong. Juts look at the columns when you expand to full table:

These are the variables:

Enter Standards
Research Quality
2 x Graduate Prospect measurements
Student Satisfaction

On Entry Standards, only behind Cambridge and ahead of LSE and Oxford…..[/quote]

Yes, I know what the variables are. Entry standards for undergrads are not a measure of an economics department, nor its “prestige” (the comment I had responded to). Graduate prospects and student satisfaction are similarly measures of career services and student experience, not the quality of the economics department. Note that St. Andrew’s scores quite low on research quality, which is the only measure of the economics department itself, and even then the score probably overstates it.

I’m not particularly interested in debating this further with you. I have an economics degree from LSE and work in this space. As indicated on the previous page, there is lots else to consider here, plenty of it good, but these departments being major players in the econ world is not one of them.[/quote]

It really doesnt matter what you and your masters degree from LSE think.

The only thing that matters is what employers think. And considering graduate prospects are very good, the focus on the undergraduate education (ala Notre Dame) is much more important than research production….[/quote]

This whole discussion—initiated by another poster—was about publishing and the prestige of econ departments. Maybe actually read and comprehend the comments before spouting off about stuff?[/quote]

I’m the poster from yesterday that agreed with you. Clearly this PP didnt follow our conversation.
Prestige of Econ depts is more inline with our previous discussion.

The PP does make an interesting point about graduate prospects which I didnt even look at before. For undergrads that want to go to industry this is obviously a key metric. But if your goal is to move towards a PhD, then the prestige of the dept in the subject is much more important. [/quote]

Agree again!

Need more reasonable people like this on this forum.[/quote]

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