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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some of you are really jaded. You act like no women has ever been happily married to a non-jerk before. That's really sad.

I'm not saying everyone wants a husband and children, but my husband and children enrich my life in so many ways and I would be very lonely and sad without them. Yes it's more "work" too - but I honestly don't know what I would do with all of my free time instead. No hobby takes that much time![/quote]

This place is an echo chamber of unhappy women. It serves basically the same function as an incel message board in reverse; it highlights the negative experiences of some people and encourages people reading it to identify with those negative experiences. It is, very often, pretty much removed from reality. Look at the conversation on housework and childcare. On average, women in households with children do more of those things than men, it's true. Men do, on average, about 16.5 hours per week of housework and childcare and women do around 31. Men, in turn, do paid work for 38.4 hours per week, to women's 21.6. The result is that men's combination of paid and unpaid work is slightly higher than women's, but overall it's essentially even. 
Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/03/14/chapter-6-time-in-work-and-leisure-patterns-by-gender-and-family-structure/ which draws on the American Time Used Study

That's not the story you get here though. The story you get here both ignores the fact that men, on average, are doing housework and childcare (a couple hours a day on average) and that they're doing paid work enough more than women to more than offset the extra unpaid labor at home.[/quote]

Proof is in the pudding, babe. women are choosing not to get married or have kids. It’s not because DCUM is populated by unhappy harpies. It’s because it’s too hard and unrewarding. [/quote]

Absolutely true. I’m no “female incel”. I have sons and brothers and a father who was a great provider.

I am, however, a product of my lived experience. I’m attractive, fit, interesting and attractive. I’m independently wealthy thanks to that same father I love. But the idea of taking on a man on a full time basis again isn’t attractive to me in any way. I take lovers when I want to and won’t cohabitate or marry one again. Ever. So much hassle. I’ have yet to meet a man who does life better than me. If I find one, my opinion might change- but it’s been 8 years of enjoying my divorced life and I haven’t found anyone even remotely close.‘I love men! Love sleeping with them, flirting with them,  being friends with them. At the same time, I will not tie myself to one legally or financially ever again. [/quote]

I love how there are all these divorcees and women in failing relationships ranting at those who say marriage can be good if you choose wisely.

Ladies, we get it, you chose poorly. But that doesn't make you an expert on relationships. But your responses (and way of responding) do shed light on at least some reasons your relationships failed.[/quote]

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