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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tbh I do wonder why Biden wasn’t there instead. He is the sitting US president. It seems like he should be there.[/quote]

Foreign leaders criticized Trump. Now they’re courting him.

The president-elect is in Paris on Saturday not as a punchline but as a guest of honor for the reopening of Notre Dame, the world-famous cathedral whose guardians once seemed to mock him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/07/trump-notre-dame-france-macron/

Biden is out, Trump is in. [/quote]

They all still (rightly) think Trump is a senile clown but are now in the unfortunate situation of needing his cooperation to keep the world from going sideways.[/quote]

Same way the western world felt about the racist womanizer Franklin Roosevelt but that turned out okay.  [/quote]

Funny you have to go back until the 1940's!  Yes, Trump would have fitted in very nicely![/quote]

Well, that was the last time European leaders were courting Roosevelt to save them from the Nazis[/quote]

Trump would have told them 'America first!'  I like German generals.  Hitler was a brillant leader.[/quote]

No that was old Joe Kennedy who was shouting “America First” in his brief tenure as Ambassador to the Court of St James.   After he scooped up valuable the British  liquor licenses to expand his prohibition booze business, Churchill insisted old Joe be recalled.    Then the US got into the war.   [/quote]

Let's stick to the 21st century, shall we?  I am not going to defend Joe Kennedy or any Kennedy men.  Are you going to keep living in the past?

Are you saying we got in the war because of Joe Kennedy's booze business?  Or the fact we were stopping Hitler?[/quote]

We are talking about the 21st C when European leaders courted Trump as they last courted Roosevelt who was following an American First policy. Joe Kennedy was a leading proponent of America First but after Roosevelt made him the ambassador to Great Britain and he got the lucrative licenses, he stepped back from his stance and urged Roosevelt to do the same. At the risk of offending you with another 20th C figure,  Churchill may have had something to do with the licenses and Kennedy putting aside America First

We were not keen to get into the war until Roosevelt dropped his America First stance.   Probably more Churchill than Kennedy but both played a part.

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Still not the present. [/quote]

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