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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For all you adoptive parents. Yes you are real parents and love your children and your children still love you. I'm sure you gave them 
Their bio parents most likely had great reasons for not parenting.

However, none of that changes that your child may still feel abandoned or some kind of loss related to their bio parents.
This is a very real thing.[/quote]

Because there are weird people like some of the posters in this thread telling them that adoptive parents aren't real parents.[/quote]
Literally no one is saying that. You are being willfully obtuse. Two things can be true. This child was abandoned with no parent, and someone else stepped in to raise her and became her parent. [/quote]

You can't claim the child was "abandoned with no parent" without saying the adoptive parent isn't a parent. How do you not see that?[/quote]
But you can. Two things can be true. Auntie stepped in to become a parent. After her mother died and her father abandoned her. [/quote]

At what point was the child without a parent?[/quote]
After her mother died and her father abandoned her. Not sure how much more simple to make this for you. [/quote]

When you claim her father "abandoned" her, she had an adoptive mother. There was no point she was abandoned without a parent.[/quote]
She was abandoned with no parent, and someone else stepped in to raise her. Aunt wouldn’t be her parent if she hadn’t been left without one. You clearly understand and acknowledge this and are arguing semantics. [/quote]

That's not the way adoption works. As described by the Op, the child was never abandoned without a parent.

You're desperately trying to avoid backtracking since you've seen how unpopular it is to suggest adoptive parents don't count as parents. But they do. And as such, the child always had a parent.[/quote]
No one is saying adopted parents aren't parents. You are desperately trying to invent something that never happened. This child was abandoned with no parent. I'm glad that someone else stepped in to become her parent and raise her. [/quote]

If adoptive parents are parents, then the child always had a parent, and thus was never abandoned without one.[/quote]
Your refusal to see basic logic is baffling. I'm assuming you're an adoptive parent and are somehow taking offence at this statement, but it's not about you. Honestly the rabid dog with a bone mentality just makes you look petty and childish. [/quote]

Again, if you're so convinced the child was "abandoned without a parent" then you should be able to identify a point in time where the child did not have a parent. So if you'd like to continue digging, when was that?[/quote]
Are you not able to read?

After the childs mother died, and after her father abandoned her. That's when. [/quote]

No, then the child had an adoptive mother- i.e., a parent. You keep saying the child was abandoned without a parent. When did the child lack a parent?[/quote]
After the childs mother died, and after her father abandoned her. That's when.[/quote]

Then you're saying the adoptive mother doesn't count as a parent. Otherwise she always had a parent. Legally that's obviously the case. And practically, the OP had never claimed there was a period of time inbetween the biological father acting as a parent and the aunt acting as an adoptive parent.[/quote]
Again with the semantics. There is obviously a point where dad abandoned the child (no parent) and aunt adopting the child (now their parent). You acknowledge this, you just don't like the term being used. Again, it's not about you. [/quote]

No, there's not. Legally you remain the parent until the adoptive parent gains custody. If you want to put the legal semantics aside and look instead at who was practically acting as the parent, then the OP never claimed a gap between the biological father and the aunt.

None of us know exactly how that occurred, but in these situations there is often a gradual transition from one to the other before the formal adoption paperwork is completed.[/quote]

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