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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not an expert by any means but this is just what I've observed:

At our well-regarded private, the curriculum is very rigorous, no one gets straight As/4.0, kids have normal club leaderships, varsity sports type ECs. BUT, the ones with [b]strong art portfolios[/b] including even the STEM kids seem to get into Ivies/top 20. Caveat is those kids are all full pay.

Among friends/neighbors at public schools, it seems it's MUCH harder to stand out. Know over a dozen kids in past 3-4 yrs whose parents said had top scores and grades who were shut out of their EA/ED schools and were stressed out for months. Don't laugh – true story – but the only 2 kids I know who got into HYPMS last few years from a public school, one was legally blind, and the other is a very visible social media influencer who collabs with celebrities. Everyone else, no matter how many ECs, awards or straight As, APs, they seem to have better success with schools like Tufts, Rice, Northeastern, Michigan, Cornell. All terrific choices obviously but even valedictorians with 1580 from public schools don't get into HYPs. [/quote]

what type of art?
i think kids with strong music/dance portfolios do tend to get in assuming top grades. but they usually say they are planning to double major in those things.[/quote]

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