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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My god, OP. Your daughter sounds like a spoiled, insufferable baby. [/quote] You know it’s funny… what I hear from Trump voters is how tired they are of being called stupid, racist, ignorant, etc. And we can debate whether or not clearly articulated statements have come out of that campaign that would fit those adjectives. But here’s OP on this thread, explaining that her daughter feels alienated from many of her male peers. She’s correctly noting that a significant proportion of the cohort her daughter would date is embracing a party that has been openly hostile to women. There is no debate about that. And in response, this poster calls OP’s daughter is spoiled, insufferable baby. This is one of the main reasons I have such trouble taking many Trump voters seriously. It’s impossible to have conversations with people who stomp their feet about something and then turn around and do that exact same thing in a conversation where no one asked them to. Nobody asked anybody to weigh in with this level of vitriol for OP‘s daughter. OP didn’t start a thread insulting anyone. In fact, she started a thread lamenting her concern for someone she cares about, her child. Which is something that any voter of any demographic could relate to. And yet, we have an entire thread of people lobbing insults at both women, a la the poster above. It’s really something to behold.[/quote] You know what's really something to behold? The fact that you completely ignore the over-the-top melodrama and hyperbole of the OP's post. No doubt, she has passed on her gift for exaggeration and drama to her daughter. Let's take a look at the OP again: "My 25 yr old daughter, who just moved to new city with a new job, [b]has lost her faith in men.[/b] [b]After America chose a misogynistic rapist to lead our country,[/b] she believes there are no men worth dating. [b]She’s scared for her future and wants nothing to do with men[/b]. I am trying to convince her that there are supportive kind men out there (including her own father). Can you share examples of young men fighting for women’s rights?" Does this sound like a stable person to you? [/quote] Right...you just proved my point. OP is noting her daughter expressing something that millions of women are saying right now. Post-election, this is everywhere. The garbage appearing on SM with the "your body my choice" nonsense may not represent all men (thankfully), but it's chilling. And given that 13 states completely banned abortion post-Dobbs, these fears are in no way imaginary. "Melodramatic" was exactly the word used before the SC decision, now it's considered "melodramatic" to react to it. I get that there is no issue considered a "women's issue" that you deem worthy of real interest or attention, but that isn't OP or her daughter's position, nor should it be. Whether or not OP's daughter is "stable" isn't something you're qualified to assess, and is just an attempt to dismiss her. So yeah. In a real discussion about a poster's adult child noting her disconnection from her cohort of desired partners, and acknowledgement that your first response is name calling, and the repeated statements that Democrats name-call Trump voters, you....call her names. Shrug. This is why discussions don't work with voters like this. The fight is the point. Always. Again, something to behold.[/quote]
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