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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Males are also risk takers. Many of the tech giants left college before completion and went onto huge success. Other than Elizabeth Holmes (sorry truly awful example), I can't think of another woman that left college early to launch a tech company/start up. It could be that women feel the degree (or actually need it) due to inherent biases in vc and silicon valley--not sure.[/quote] Most of these people who dropped out to start companies came from wealthy, professional families. You need some family wealth to mitigate the risk walking away from your degree at a good school. Most of these entrepreneurs did have family wealth to fall back on if their idea was a flop (eg.[b] Musk[/b], Holmes, Gates, etc.). You don't see middle class or poor (either males or females) taking that kind of risk and walking away from a year or more of tuition as often.[/quote] The Musk myth isn't true. He actually didn't come from any $$$s. Holmes' dad worked at Enron and lost most of his money in the Enron collapse. Jeff Bezos made a bunch of money at a hedge fund before starting Amazon, but didn't come from much (his mom gave birth to him in HS and eventually married a mid-level IT guy). Zuckerberg's dad is a dentist..sure, UMC but his parents weren't thrilled when he dropped out. Larry Ellison came from nothing...Harold Hamm came from abject poverty (not SV). I actually don't really buy your thesis because SV has lots of kids that either drop out or don't even attempt to go to college from the start, working at many companies. If you drop-out of college and get VC funding for a start-up, that is a badge of honor. Nobody cares that you didn't get your degree.[/quote] Errol Musk (Elon's father) said that Elon rebranded as a non-trust fund kid for better optics, but he's gone on record to say emerald mines did pay for Musk's move to the US (Queen's U/UPenn) here. Elon's father has refuted Elon's account. See here: You know that supposed Musk family-owned emerald mine that Elon has recently been saying is just a rumor, despite previously saying on record that the mine definitely existed? "I will pay a million Dogecoin for proof of this mine's existence!" Musk tweeted earlier this month, similarly complaining back in January that "the fake emerald mine thing is so annoying (sigh)." Well, according to Errol Musk, the unsurprisingly eccentric — and in one major way, extremely creepy — father of Elon, the mine definitely exists. And come to think of it, he'll take that Dogecoin, thanks! "When I read that, I wondered, 'Can I enter, because I can prove it existed," Errol told in a new interview, referring to his son's Dogecoin tweet. "Elon knows it's true. All the kids know about it." "Elon saw them (the emeralds) at our house," he added. "He knew I was selling them." The emerald mine is a particularly strange piece of Muskian lore — not strange due to the mine's existence per se, but because of Elon's more recent decision to suddenly and completely backtrack on his previous claims. Per his new Sun interview, however, Errol seems intent on setting the record straight, explaining to the tabloid that he happened upon the Italian owner of the mine at a Zambian airstrip that said Italian also owned. The Italian apparently told Errol that he paid Zambian locals to dig for the gems, and Errol decided to go into business with the gentleman (you know, as one does.) "What Elon is saying is that there was no formal mine. It was a rock formation protruding from the ground in the middle of nowhere," Errol told the tabloid, noting that he kept his involvement with the operation "under the table." "There was no mining company. There are no signed agreements or financial statements," he explained. "No one owned anything. The deal was done on a handshake with the Italian man at a time when Zambia was a free for all." Errol went as far as to say that emerald money paid for his son's move to the US, where Elon would go on to attend the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton Business School on scholarship — with, apparently, emerald-generated cash in his pocket for living expenses. [b]In other words, according to the senior Musk, it sounds a lot like Elon's entire road to wealth and fame beyond South Africa was paved with Zambian emeralds.[/b] "During that time," said Errol, speaking to Elon's college years, "I managed to send money I made from emerald sales to him and [Elon's brother, Kimbal Musk] for living expenses." Look, Errol isn't at all a capital Good Dude, and the Musk family is seemingly pretty strained. But somehow, "I met a random Italian on an airstrip and got into emerald mining from there" seems to check out for these folks, and some clarity on behalf of the world's second-richest man — who doesn't exactly have the soundest relationship to truth himself — would be welcome. And as for why Errol thinks his son won't just admit that the mine was real? "Elon's main concern is not to appear to be a 'trust fund kid' who got everything given to him on a plate," Errol told the tabloid, though did add that the belief that his son was born with a silver — or, well, emerald — spoon in his mouth "isn't true." [/quote]
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