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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is the thing….. By the way, I a public school teacher, you get a religious card in your mailbox BUT there is more. We also, at staff meetings, pray over our food that is given to us at staff meetings. We end with a bible verse. Cards passed around to sign due to birthdays or passings are religious. It’s a lot and I think they should be kept out of schools. We have 60 staff and it’s hard not to feel uncomfortable or the odd one out when everyone holds hands and bows their head but that one teacher doesn’t. Just keep it out of school and keep it moving.[/quote]

What f***** up red state is this in?! This is highly illegal. Church and state need to be kept separate! I'd be looking for a new job faster than you can say "amen!" [/quote]

Please stop day drinking. You sound unhinged and your posts are embarrassing.[/quote]

Honey, I am completely sober! People who think God is real are embarrassing. It's like believing in Santa. Once your age hits the double digits, it's not cute anymore. Have fun crying when Trump loses in November! Go Kamala!! Go Tim!![/quote]

[b]God is real, [/b]and I’m not a Trump voter. And you still sound unhinged.[/quote]

Why do you think that? [/quote]

Here’s a start:

https://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm[/quote]

But why do you believe any of that? 
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You either find them persuasive or you don't. I personally believe pure naturalism (matter is all there is) does not account for moral realism and that Christianity offers the best explanation for the world as it is. I respect that you disagree with that. I also believe this forum is not the place to debate this.[/quote]
This reminds me of the Duck Dynasty guy saying without Christianity everyone would be raping and killing each other. I wonder if people who think this way naturally lean towards immorality? 
Most atheists are far more naturally moral and to me it's just a natural benefit for humanity to care for each other, how is that not obvious to the natural order of things? [/quote]

From a purely naturalist starting point, what does "moral" mean? Because nature is red in tooth and claw, and survival of the fittest is the prevailing mechanism for how we got here, why shouldn't the stronger simply dominate the weaker, as it aids in survival?[/quote]
That is how you see it. I think caring for family, community, humanity leads to greater advancement. You don't have to crush others to win, that is what some people lack understanding of.[/quote]

Forgive me for being crude, but there are certain segments of humanity that are impeding our advancement (the definition of which may be up for debate). Why should we not do as the rest of the animal kingdom does and leave them behind? [Let me reiterate: I don't think this way, but if you take naturalism to its logical conclusion, it's where you end up.] If you want to find a naturalist who *does* believe this, go read Peter Singer. It's frightening.[/quote]

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