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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The arrested driver is a 22 year old who was at the hospital and “walked away from her family.” Sounds like she may have been the patient, maybe in crisis (mental, drugs?). The “elderly” woman was only 55 years old! 
https://www.popville.com/2024/06/female-arrested-in-a-northwest-carjacking/#more-299868[/quote]
I love the constant speculation that only and always tried to find a way to absolve this person of responsibility. Why not just wait for and rely on the facts? [/quote]

Why are you so invested in a narrative that says this woman is an unrepentant monster?  What do you gain from closing your mind off to the (pretty reasonable) possibility that she was not in her right mind?[/quote].

NP. I don't care. She killed someone, and Kayla Kenisha Brown needs to be taken out of society forever, be it in a classic prison or -- if "not in her right mind" -- then she needs to be locked up forever in one of the few remaining high security psychiatric facilities.  ala John Hinckley.

Can't wait to see the toxicology report [/quote]

Disagree, condolences to the family. But clearly the young 22 year old woman needs substance help, recovery and we need to know what the drug is. It's also possible she has mental health issues. No one should be caged for life, I prefer the European model. [/quote]

This.  She needs help, not a cage.[/quote]

She needs a lifelong cage and complete removal from society. I cannot imagine someone dismissing the death of my loved one at the hands of a malicious criminal just because they were a drug addict. Imagine your family member is killed by a callous criminal, and that criminal is then not punished to the maximum extend of the law. 
Mental health issues and substance abuse do not absolve you from a life of crime. There are millions of people who are subject to poverty, terrible childhoods, war, and violence who do not grow up to be criminals. I do not feel sorry for the killer in the slightest. I want her gone from society so she cannot take another life. [/quote]

+1 well said.  She's  had enough chances.  When these people murder us, we don't get a second chance at life.  She failed herself.    If more people like her were locked up for life our quality of life would be much better and the world a safer place.[/quote]

When you say "these people" and "more people like her" what type of people do you mean exactly?[/quote]

I take it to mean people who have no problem pumping their bodies with drugs but do not want to be held accountable for the consequences of the effects of those drugs on behavior.  [/quote]

This. There must be some accountability for god-awful, selfish decisions that result in irreparable harm and death to the community. I do not give a rat's ass what her personal circumstances were. She chose to be a criminal. Why should we accommodate her crap lifestyle choices? This is someone who is incapable of adding value to our communities. Lock her up, and let's hope that harsher criminal punishments will deter future bad actors.

She can try to blame her situation on "mental illness" all she likes but the vast majority of us know this is crap. My SIL has a very serious mental illness. She is not robbing people or murdering anyone. My DH grew up in a war zone under gun and rocket fire. He has never chosen to hurt anyone and lives a quiet life as a professional with a family. I grew up in a largely Hispanic city and neighborhood. Most of my extended family grew up with no money, education and access to very little. The overwhelming majority of my family members are good people with jobs who just try to do their best. I have one cousin in jail. Not because he was a victim of racism or inequities but becuase he is a terrible, a-hole who made bad decisions in life. None of his siblings are in jail so he cannot blame his childhood, family situation, or whatever key factors of victimization have become popular now.

Quit the victim mentality. Criminals have a choice 100%. When they opt to do nothing with their lives and become a danger to society, we need to enforce punishment to the maximum extend of the law. [/quote]

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