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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is part of Vision Zero that we should eliminate all pedestrian crossings on roads in favor of bridge crossings? Vegas does the bridges, but of course only on the strip. We need them on every inch of every roadway, plus walls on the roads to make sure people use the bridges.[/quote] No. Pedestrian bridges cost a lot of money, they occupy a lot of space, and then pedestrians don't use them anyway, because people don't want to have to walk 2-3 times as far just to cross the street. Pedestrian bridges are infrastructure for drivers who don't want to have to slow down or stop for pedestrians. What we need is streets that are safe for people to cross at street level.[/quote] Nothing that you said is true. Also to add that painted cross walks cost very little and pedestrians refuse to use those either. So what?[/quote] You know, it's funny, because I keep asking for painted cross walks, and the people responsible for the roads keep saying no, because painted cross walks give pedestrians a false sense of security. As a licensed driver, you surely know that there are cross walks at every intersection, whether they're actually painted or not, and you have to stop for pedestrians in unpainted (known as "unmarked" crosswalks) EXACTLY THE SAME as you have to stop for pedestrians in painted ("marked") cross walks. As a licensed driver, you also surely know that it is legal for pedestrians to cross between intersections almost everywhere.[/quote] You’re against pedestrian bridges because pedestrians don’t use them.[b] You are against cross walks because they provide “false sense of safety”. [/b]I guess the only solution then is for everyone to stay home because there is nothing that can be done. Except, I was in Ireland a little while ago and you know what I noticed? Cyclist and pedestrians followed the rules. They did not jaywalk or run red lights, even if there were no cars present. They waited diligently for their signal and went across the street. Perhaps if you folks want European levels of traffic safety the answer is in European levels of compliance behavior by cyclists and pedestrians and cars. [/quote] No, that's our transportation departments. Our transportation departments are against painted crosswalks, on grounds that painted crosswalks provide a false sense of security to pedestrians. Speaking of following the rules, when you're driving, do you stop for pedestrians in unmarked crosswalks?[/quote] That should have been your clue that many of these new fangled traffic engineers don't know what they are doing.[/quote] It's the old fangled traffic engineers who say stuff like that.[/quote]
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