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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]More on the losses due to people leaving.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2023/11/01/exodus-from-moco-part-two/[/quote]

Dunno about you, but I think the purpose of county government is to serve [u]people[/u], not tax returns or real AGI.[/quote]

Dunno where you went to school but no services without the cash.[/quote]

Do you have any evidence that the county is losing any money [i]as a result of[/i] people leaving?[/quote]

DP.  Would be nice if you [i]addressed[/i] the issues raised instead of continually questioning them.  Just makes you sound like you don't want to face reality if that hurts your particular interest.

Whether or not there is wealth flight, which has been shown time and again to lead to a deterioration of municipal services, there certainly is a school overcrowding issue.  The proposed law allows further crowding without requiring steps to remediate that additional crowding.

Wealthy areas are more insulated from the potential effect of this bill than less wealthy areas, given rail proximity and likely geographic application of the other two categories (prior state land & nonprofit land).  Schools there are also more likely to be:

Less overcrowded in the first place,

Better supported financially by the community, ameliorating some of the possible effect, and

Politically connected to reduce eventual inpact.

Suggesting that this should go through for housing, and that a separate effort should be made to remediate the infrastructure, both ignores the great hurdle of that required advocacy (given the already great difficulty in achieving success, there, over the past few decades) and misses the opportunity to achieve a more holistic solution.  In the meantime, it will be the already overcrowded, less wealthy areas that will bear the brunt of this lack of foresight.  Inequity coming from those claiming to be supporting equity in the first place.

Fix the bill.  Then pass it.[/quote]

DP. If someone keeps asserting that county revenue is decreasing because rich people are leaving, it's reasonable to ask them if they have any evidence to support their assertion. Why address an "issue" that is not actually an issue?[/quote]

Perhaps it would not be best to pay it lip service if they think there is no basis for the claim.  But better to sumply state that than to draw out an incessant back and forth with such questioning.  It distracts from more relevant conversation.

Speaking of which, what about the rest of the post -- inadeqately robust, narrowly focused legislation, more likely to burden less wealthy communities?  For the purpose of the discussion on this board, why not make certain it properly supports schools (or, at least, doesn't contribute to their deficit, especially with inequitable effect)?[/quote]

I'm the PP who asked for evidence.  You would rather I just baldly state that it is false without any evidence myself?
Seems to me that productive discourse requires testing the accuracy of supporting claims in good faith.

You'd prefer the "nu-huh" v. "yes-huh" style of "discussion"?[/quote]

I would prefer neither.  Either way simply distracts.  The questioning without providing a direct and robust counter of one's own is merely a more insidious way of making that distraction happen.  So between the two distasteful approaches, maybe the less insidious one?

You suggest stating it's false [i]without any evidence yourself[/i].  How about stating it's false [i]with evidence or a robust rationale[/i]?  That would be far more productive discourse than the questioning-only approach, allowing equivalent critique of each viewpoint.  And, yes, further evidence from the one viewpoint would be helpful, but providing a rationale is, at least, a.start.[/quote]

Funny that questioning an assertion underlying an argument is insidious distraction, but hijacking to critique somebody's form of engagement is not.

I have questioned, and I have cited evidence.
When somebody confidently makes an assertion that I can't immediately find evidence to support, I will continue to question it rather than either ignore it or engage with it as though it is true.

You do you.[/quote]

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