Reply to Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Forum Index » Advanced Academic Programs (AAP)

Reply to "Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.[/quote]
Equity efforts should not take away opportunities from the high achieving kids but expand opportunities to include underrepresented.  The  problem is nothing they have ever thrown money has worked.  Take young scholar program, not a single student from there is in the top 10% at any school they attend.  But they magically belong at TJ. Not only high achieving kids must be deprived of their opportunity but TJ standard has been lowered to make under-qualified students survive there. But unqualified still drop out in freshman since no matter how much the standard has been lowered it is still a stretch for them to meet.  [/quote]

Just as parents spending big$$$ to make average students appear gifted shouldn't take away opportunities from high-achieving kids from lower-income schools either.[/quote]
Parents are spending big$$$ on coaches, travel leagues, and air jordans to make their average student appear athletic and are taking away opportunities from other high-capable kids from entering sports teams on public high schools.  But when it comes to spending tiny$ on math workbooks, they find it easier to let loons like you to sit front of keyboard posing as equity warriors.   [/quote]

Quality coaches are able to see past the big dollars that parents spend in order to make the average student appear athletic. And quality admissions officers should be able to see past the big dollars that parents spend to make their workaday students seem gifted. It's not that complicated.[/quote]
Thorough evaluation is needed in either case, not an essay about life experiences.[/quote]

This.  It would be much easier to detect overly prepped mediocre kids with a comprehensive application that includes test scores, recommendations, grades + courses taken, significant achievements, and essays over one that just includes GPA and essays.  All of those mediocre, but overly prepped kids are going to have tutors and 4.0 GPAs.  They're also going to be trained in how to write TJ application type essays.  If a kid has good grades and test scores, but no real achievements and very tepid teacher recommendations, you would then know that the kid is nothing special.

If nothing else, a baseline proficiency test should be part of the application.  It serves no one's best interests to admit kids to TJ who are ill prepared and will likely wash out of the program.  MS grades are grossly inflated and pretty meaningless.  TJ should administer a pass/fail baseline test to weed out the kids who do not have the skills to succeed at TJ.  Or at the very least, any kid who did not earn at least a 480+ on all of their 7th grade SOLs should be considered unqualified for TJ.  [/quote]

These ideas are not unreasonable. Sadly teacher recs were eliminated because they've been shown to be racially biased.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics