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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hehehe, preteachers are so overly optimistic and idealistic.

I hope it works out for you, TFA lawyer.  I really do.

--20 year veteran who teaches at a "cushy" school where new teachers still regularly cry that first year, regardless of former experience.[/quote]

I'm not overly optimistic or idealistic, poster. After decades in the criminal justice system, I've seen and endured things that would make most people despair. To suggest that I'm not tough enough to hack teaching in public schools is laughable - I've already done quite well as a substitute, so I am not worried that I can make it there.

I can make it [b]anywhere[/b], and have done so my entire life - beginning with a childhood in which I was molested and beaten on a regular basis, and witnessed my mother nearly murdered among other horrors. They don't make human beings more resilient than me. I'm certainly not going to have my feelings hurt by a bunch of kids, nor by their parents - I've worked thousands of hours with kids in educational settings already, it's not something alien to me. Dealing with difficult people - adults and children alike - has been my entire career thus far.

Save your disingenuous well wishes.[/quote]

You’ll be fine.  Teachers love to act like teaching is the hardest most grueling job on the planet.  It isn’t.  You know that, I know that, lots of others who have truly worked hard(er) jobs know that.  [/quote]

… says the person who hasn’t ever taught.

I find it fascinating when ignorant posters chime in. Clearly the exodus out of the profession means nothing to you.

If it’s so easy, tell me why you aren’t signing up. I’d love to hear. [/quote]

It’s not a mass exodus, just a couple percent higher per year than before the pandemic.

https://www.chalkbeat.org/2023/3/6/23624340/teacher-turnover-leaving-the-profession-quitting-higher-rate?_amp=true

Given that more than 85% of teachers aren’t leaving every year, maybe this is just a natural weeding out of whingers who can’t hack it?[/quote]

I watched two teachers at my school quit already and it’s only September. I’ve had to walk a crying teacher into the building last week, and I suspect she’ll be the 3rd to quit. My department is made up of primarily new teachers, and I doubt half will be back.

But sure, all-knowing DCUM, keep ignoring what those of us with actual experience are telling you. With the exception of the lawyer (who somehow thinks this will be easy), I don’t see anybody else joining our ranks. The challenge is out there. If we have it so good, join us. There are plenty of openings.[/quote]

I am the career changing lawyer and I would like you to review my posts and tell me where I EVER said it was EASY - you can’t, because I NEVER did. I am being attacked here after an initial warm welcome, because I had the temerity to challenge a teacher who was making proclamations about what lawyers experience in their careers - length of hours in court, time to plan their cases, and salaries. The teacher had it entirely wrong and I simply provided, without attacking, the accurate information. And since then I’ve been repeatedly and roundly attacked.

Honestly I’m shocked at the nasty petty attitudes being displayed here by TEACHERS. Do you wallow with glee in anticipation of your students’ failures, too? Those of you behaving this way do not seem to me to have the right temperament to be teachers of young people nor mentors of fellow teachers.

I have a lot of experience in education, not just the 22 years I spent as a student but also 10 years as an educator at university, grade school and high school levels. And one thing I do know is that some teachers are bullies. And I suspect that some of you rabidly attacking me also express your hostility to the poor kids in your classrooms. [/quote]

DP and a parent, not a teacher. But I would wager you are getting "attacked" because of your condescending attitude. [/quote]

I hope it goes smoothly for you, PP, but you come across as super high and mighty and it makes me all prickly reading your posts, and I'm not even a teacher.[/quote]

Another parent - who has been disgusted by the other parents in my community (many who also happen to be lawyers). 
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