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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have noticed no decline, if you worry this much about city living crime and schools, you should move to the burbs or back to your hometown. Leave the real city living to the rest of us. [/quote]

Take a ride with a taxi cab driver who has been working a decade.  [b]He will tell you all you need to know about the state of decline the city is in.  
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The deniers on this thread are either new to the city or have very, very low standards of city life.  Perhaps the PP is from Seattle or San Francisco and thinks DC is a step up from those dumpsters.[/quote]

I came here in 1985.  It has gone down significantly.  [/quote]

That couldn't be more of an inaccurate statement. Sure, maybe if you've lived in Georgetown since 1985 and never left, you may be "scared" to see a homeless guy playing music..[/quote]

Nope. A homeless guy playing music is not the concern.[/quote]

There is no logical arguement to say DC was safer in 80s vs. today. They're obviously pockets of violence, but as a whole, the city is night and day safer/better.[/quote]

It is safer than the 80s, but not the 00s. And a main problem is that there are not pockets of violence. Violence now takes place throughout the city and in areas that once were safer.[/quote]

People keep saying this but it is utter nonsense.

Violence took place throughout the city in the 80s and 90s, and quite a bit more of it. The only difference (besides the fact that there's significantly less of it) [b]is that in the 80s and 90s people like you wouldn't dare set foot in Columbia Heights or the Navy Yard and now you will[/b].

And show me any evidence that there's significantly more violence in "areas that were once safer." Because the only part of the city violence wasn't common in the 80s and 90s was Ward 3, and guess what, Ward 3 is still incredibly safe and free from violence.

There were 2 (yes 2!) homicides in all of Ward 3 last year. There were 25 assaults with a dangerous weapon. In a Ward with roughly 80,000 residents. Even if there was 1 homicide and 12 assaults per year in the 80s and you fearmongers could say "OMG crime up 100% since then!" it would still be completely irrelevant because 1 homicide and 13 assaults is a rounding error when you're talking about 80,000 people. Your actual statistical chances went up by a rounding error.

And I'm guessing there were far more than 1 homicide and 12 assaults per year in Ward 3 in the 80s and 90s. [/quote]

The idea people did not set foot in Columbia Heights or the Navy Yard is wrong. There were a ton of clubs in the Navy Yard, now gone, where DJs and local bands played and they were packed. That was in the 80s and 90s. The only thing to go to in Columbia Heights was Black Cat in the 90s.  It was pretty much the only place there and it was packed also. And both of those areas were underdeveloped and not considered the "safest" places, but people still went there regularly. [/quote]

Black Cat was always further south on 14th Street than Columbia Heights is.

It's obviously true that a lot of people spent a lot of time in these neighborhoods long before they gentrified. I think the point PP was making is that many of the people who now live there or visit a lot would never have found a reason to go there before. Different demographics (in terms of age, income, and race), different expectations of safety, etc. It's a broad claim but doesn't seem wildly inaccurate...[/quote]

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