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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!! 
I might quit my job and work for UPS.     WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..

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they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.[/quote]

Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work.  Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out.  Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work.  Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.

You gonna pay all of them $170k too?  Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries.  So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required.  Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers.  Say hello to permanently high inflation.[/quote]

Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers. [/quote]

Many of them still do - we live in a million dollar house and the neighbor on one side is a plumber and the neighbor two doors down is a contractor. I don't think either of them has a college degree, just years of training in their trades. I don't know why you all think college degree is the only worthwhile education, on the job training is also a form of education. UPS drivers or trade, either way.[/quote]

That's a stupid comparison though. A plumber has years of training. An electrician has years of training. A contractor probably has years of trading in the trades. Those ARE skilled jobs. You can't take any schmo off the street and run electrical wire in a building.

We are talking about jobs that require NO education and NO specialized skills that take years of training to learn.  You drive a truck and lift heavy boxes.  It doesn't take an apprenticeship like an electrician to become a journeyman.  No one has problems paying a highly skilled peofessional blue collar job that requires years of training.

What's next, compensating the burger flipper or a dish washer at a very busy restaurant $170k because that is probably hard work too? [/quote]

A UPS driver is a highly skilled job.  You start out as an assistant and it takes years to get your own route. Once you know your route, they will only let you relocate one time. Why? Because there is years of logistical knowledge in your head. That is incredibly valuable to the company.

I’m not saying they can’t automate that job someday but they haven’t yet. UPS is a shrewd company and they will automate whatever possible. You know who they automated? The entire HR department. It was eliminated a few years ago with zero notice. (Next is going to be some other educated white collar workers.)

You need to wrap your brain around what actually goes into the job.

A UPS driver is a logistics expert who also drives and moves boxes. They are constantly dealing with unexpected events while being the face of the company to consumers.

If someone’s job title were logistics specialist sitting at a desk, you probably wouldn’t bat an eye at the high compensation. But add on the blue collar duties such as driving, carrying boxes, and darting in and out of traffic while wearing brown shorts and suddenly they are a moronic piece of meat.

You are an unworldly snob. And a mental slave to the university system.

I live in Louisville, home to many blue collar millionaires thanks to UPS. No one is mad about it, I can assure you.

It’s been going on for generations. And guess what? UPS likes it just fine because they make billions in profits. They would rather deal with a collective bargaining unit than negotiate salaries and benefits with hundreds of thousands of employees individually.

And yeah, kids in the know around here, finish high school, get union jobs, and work their way up. They are sometimes 25 or 26 pulling in this kind of money with no college debt. And that goes for the women too! Because Union jobs are a merit system. Everyone is paid according to a scale and your seniority is key.

There are DINKS working at UPS  in their 30’s and love it.

My husband left his respectable DC job that required an expensive masters degree to work for UPS doing manual labor. His family was concerned. Now they get it.

You can do it too. [b]If you are willing to do some hard work, wear some brown shorts, and stop looking down your nose at jobs and people you don’t understand.[/b]  [/quote]

This, especially the bolded[/quote]

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