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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What should a "fair" wage for UPS drivers be?  A lot of posters think it's too much but nobody has said what they should earn.  And do they provide more value to our economy than most of the folks sitting behind a desk basically pushing papers that use absolutely zero of their college degree to do their job?  I'd argue yes.[/quote]

$50-70k.  Pretty much the average between fedex, Dhl, usps, Amazon, etc.  they’re about $19-28 /hr, while the union is extorting UPS for $49/ hr.    There’s no way ups drivers work that much harder or[b] better than Amazon delivery guys.[/b]  They’re bring hugely overpaid. [/quote]

You are looking at it the wrong way. Amazon drivers are getting paid TOO little and being exploited (so we can all have a constant stream of cheap crap from China). We should not try to bring people down to the lowest level. [/quote]

Wrong.

If Amazon drivers were getting paid to little then no one would do the job, yet people do do the job.  UPS management are idiots allowing themselves to be extorted for gross overcompensation while Amazon has shown it can pay a fraction of the cost and be worth over a trillion dollars. [/quote]

Amazon is not paying any full-time drivers. It's gig work, no benefits. Is that the direction you think all jobs should head? Lowest-bidder, zero-protection, zero-accountability temp workers for everything?[/quote]

Again, if the job were so terrible and compensation so bad, then no one would do the job. Yet people still do the job.  That just goes to show you how vastly over compensated UPS drivers are.  Amazon drivers do the same job for a fraction of the cost.

Do you have a point?  In our at will economy, people drive trucks for Amazon. So obviously the compensation is still fine. [/quote]

You can't compare flexible gig work to a full-time job! That's like saying that because some people take tutoring gigs, no one should be a teacher, or teachers should be paid the same hourly rate. Or no one should drive municipal busses, we should all just rely on Uber and Lyft as our sole means of transportation.[/quote]

You can piss and moan all you want. If Amazon's gig job compensation was so awful, then no one would do it. Yet people do it. Facts are facts. Amazon shows how much uneducated, unskilled labor used for driving trucks and delivering packages is truly worth.  It's worth about $20-25/hr, not $50/hr or $80+/hr (if you count benefits) like UPS is paying. UPS is massively overpaying for the same labor that Amazon, DHL, regional parcel carriers, and FedEx all pay about $20-30/hr for.  It's that simple. Again, people drive for Amazon, so clearly the pay is enough.  We have an at will employment economy. People are free not to drive trucks for Amazon if the pay is too low, which will force Amazon to raise compensation.  But they do drive trucks for Amazon.  UPS is going to be hamstrung for years with massive labor costs they are going to make them uncompetitive. They'll be forced to raise prices or investment in the company will flee, which will limit their long term growth. Or they'll have to slash jobs. They will lose market share as they become less and less competitive.  [/quote]

Correction: Amazon is willing to churn employees.  UPS is willing to keep people in organization who become ambassadors for the company.  I don’t know about you but I know my UPS drivers name (Pete) and never even meet my Amazon drivers - a new person, it seems every day.[/quote]

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