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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Look OP, if you are still here, or anyone else searching, the fundamental question is: do you even believe in the possibility of a correct answer, of an objective Truth? Because if you won't even allow for that possibility (maybe because you can't stand the thought of hurting other people's sensibilities because it would imply others are wrong), then you are not ready for this journey. Focus on that fundamental issue first. People get through this hump in varying ways. For some, it might be that they get there intellectually or logically. For others, it might be precipitated by an existential crisis that humbles them enough to say anything's possible. But that is just based on my observations. God works in mysterious ways and there are certainly no limits to how he breaks down people's walls. Good luck. [/quote] I don't think Christianity is my path to finding God, this thread has confirmed it. Some of the posts are lecturing and overbearing. I don't believe in the God of the Bible, that doesn't mean that there isn't a Higher power or I can't find my own Spirituality. I don't care if some of the Christians on here think I am wrong. There have been some helpful answers to my post but it has mainly been hijacked by one or two posters who seem intent in bullishly pushing Christianity and telling everyone else they are wrong. Pretty gross.[/quote] You have had a private school education, have a college degree, a career, and a supportive family. You have health insurance and can access mental health care and afford prescription drugs to treat your depression and mental health struggles. [b]You can afford your home, transportation, pay your bills, buy groceries, have a computer and internet access. You were not sexually, emotionally, or physically abused as a child or adult. [/b] You’ve been blessed beyond measure throughout your life. If you don’t want to believe in the God of the bible, you were privileged to be born and live in a country with complete religious freedom- both freedom to believe, or not to believe. I think calling people who are exercising their religious freedom (especially in a forum specifically discussing religion) is gross. Nobody makes you come to a religious forum. This is a place to specifically discuss religion. You don’t have to discuss Christianity or Christians. No Christian asked you to ask questions about Christianity or religion or spiritual beliefs or practices. Because the majority of Americans are Christian, including our President and his family, as well as the majority of our elected officials claiming to have a Christian faith tradition, it’s completely understandable that Christianity plays a role in American society, politics, and culture. I wish you luck on navigating your spiritual life. It’s clear that even with all your familial and material blessings, you are missing a spiritual component to your life. You should focus on your mental health, and focus on supporting your mom. Since you both have struggled with suicidal thoughts, you need to monitor each other and help each other in tough times and make sure you both have what you need to remain as physically and mentally healthy as possible. [b]Realize many people in America are not as well off or financially stable as you are, and consider donating your time and talents and financial support to organizations you feel are worthwhile, to help your fellow man.[/b] Perhaps start a thread here encouraging others to do the same, share resources that are helpful. Also calling people names and saying free expression of speech and religion are “gross” isn’t very kind or tolerant. Perhaps working on accepting others and giving them space to exercise their God given freedoms might be appropriate. Tolerance and acceptance is for everyone, not just for ideals/values/morals you approve of personally or happen to agree with. [/quote] I don't have a problem with Christians generally just judgmental close minded ones like you. Most of my friends and family identify as Christian and are open and tolerant people who do not diss other people's faiths. You know very little about my childhood and early adult life other than I went to boarding school. You are assuming that I don't already work with charities and volunteer my time- you couldn't be more wrong. I am leaving this thread now, so maybe you can focus your lecturing on someone else.[/quote] DP: you need to be aware that not all people who identify themselves as Christian actually believe in God. God made the rules that designed to make us feel uncomfortable. If you look at any concepts that the God designed for us, they are way beyond human nature: love your neighbor; when someone hits you on one cheek, you should turn another one.... Those and other are so contrary to our human nature and so uncomfortable to follow. No wonder you are feeling uncomfortable with Christianity. You might find more comfort in other religions, or spiritual rituals, but you will not find the God there. [/quote] Well said. People don't understand that every Christian teaching is difficult and uncomfortable, even the ones that people like, like loving your neighbor and helping the poor. Being a Christian doesn't mean you are now in the in group and don't have to be uncomfortable anymore. It actually means failing on a daily basis to meet those ideals. Failing and getting up and trying again.[/quote]
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