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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why is the solution alllllllllways to kowtow to the lowest common denominator.

This should be great for America's progress and innovation - knee cap the brightest because half the class are children of illegal migrants who need all sorts of remedial work since they can't even speak English.

People just cannot handle the fact there is also a natural bell curve of intelligence. Stop holding back our best.[/quote]

Well, then you'll be pleased to know this is not what they're doing. Instead, they're raising up lower-performing students by requiring all students to perform at a high level.[/quote]

No they are not. It is impossible to teach a higher level class if 50% of the class cannot even get close to meeting state math/ELA standards. Ridiculous assertion. I am all for high expectations for everyone, but tracking is necessary to accomplish it. [/quote]

Evidence?[/quote]

I present to you MCPS own Evidence of Learning data dashboard: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/Evidence-of-Learning-Grade11.html

[b]With 71% of all student meeting the on-level requirements for literacy and only 60% meeting the requirements for on-level math, I can assure that it's not possible they're passing and thriving in a truly rigorous "honors" class if their school has adopted an honors for all mod[/b]el.

In fact, you can drill down to Kennedy, which has had an honors for all model since 2017 and see the data:

64% met the watermark for literacy in 2022
40% met the watermark for math in 2022

And yet, I bet you 60% of kids are not getting D's or E's on their report cards in math, nor are 36% getting D's or E's in their English and History classes.

There's the evidence you need to know that honors-for-all does not result in anything that looks like raising the bar and uplifting the performance of students in any way, shape or form.[/quote]
Huh??
If 71% of students are meeting on-level requirements for  literacy, I can assure you they  can handle honors classes .
It's  only 38% statewide and 28% nationwide [/quote]

Yeah I don't really understand why some people are trying to misrepresent. This is something other than simply MCPS racing expectations.[/quote]

71% of students being on level does NOT = 71% being ready for honors classes

How are you reaching that conclusion?

I won't even touch why you're ok with only 71% of our students being on-level for literacy to begin with....[/quote]

I guess if you don't give people a chance they can't disappoint you. But that being said, raising the bar for all seems like the right move for MCPS and 71% seems adequate for honors.[/quote]

So you're not going to answer the question. Got it. I'm done wasting time with you.[/quote]

Occam's razor stipulates the two propositions being equal, the one with fewer assumptions is right. This is why I would take honors for all at face value instead of jumping to these unfounded conclusions that it's something else without any evidence.[/quote]

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