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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP and their supporters are making themselves look like goofs. They keep citing their opponents as being 5-day/week bootlickers or managers who want to be fawned over, but no one is making those arguments. It’s beyond me why OP can’t go to work and collaborate like they used to, with open doors and face-to-face meetings. Who said that RTO meant sitting in an office with their door closed and working on Teams. That would be the opitome of someone who can’t pivot, not understanding when to use which tools. If I was OPs manager, I’d have a conversation about their attitude and inflexibility. If that didn’t improve with a verbal, PIP it would be. OP doesn’t want hybrid to work. They’re insufferable and should be terminated. Let’s be honest, the Fed is paying this person a handsome sum to work. If they can’t muster the wherewithal to get into the office and be a cordial colleague 2-3 days a week, they’re not needed. Bad apples spoil the bunch. [/quote]

Not OP. The point is, even when we go in the office now, everyone else sits in their office and meets on Teams. My manager has made zero effort to have his team meet face-to-face, and even declines in-person meetings with me! It’s a total joke. The only point appears to be my physical presence in the office.

The fact is, your notions of “collaboration” and “innovation” weren’t actually happening pre-pandemic in the way you think. Most of my job was independent knowledge work, with phone discussions, and the substantive issues all hashed out in writing (exchanges of drafts). The in-person meetings we had were totally uneccesary time wasters where nothing got done. Teams has turned phone calls into video calls, which means I see more people’s faces than I used to.

Requiring maybe one day a month, or even a day a week, or an ad-hoc team building meeting, might make sense IF the managers actually ensure their staff meet together. But the Fed RTO is going way beyond that. [/quote]

Sounds like a bad manager. A lot of the problem is that managers are caught between their team members and senior management. If senior management could articulate their rationale for hybrid and require managers to get onboard (I.e. function like pre-pandemic, which shouldn’t be rocket science), managers could get their employees to engage. [/quote]

If he is bad, then every other manager is bad in the same way. Because they are trying to claim that their is an essential reason to be in person, when our actual work shows that there is not. Proclaiming we need to “collaborate” in the abstract doesn’t change the way we actually do our work (in person or at home).

So yes, I think I agree with you that higher management needs to articulate an actual reason for in-person work. And they have not so far.[b] Until they do that, they can expect very unhappy employees, attrition, and more difficulty recruiting. [/b]Not to mention wasting federal $$ on office space.

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+1 I need someone to explain to me why I need to drive into work to hold a Webex call with foreign regulators. [/quote]

You’re driving! Clutches chest. Won’t you think about Metro! So anti-community. [/quote]

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