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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nobody gets admitted because of race. It's not a bump. Don't  believe it. If there's a toss up between equals and a college realizes their students all are alike, then maybe on occasion given all other things equal someone might get a second look, but all things are equal so it's just the luck of teh draw at that point. Even lying about about race for a scholarship only puts you in the hunt, you're still competing against others on stats. Nobody gets a scholarship just because they are of a certain race, they simply might qualify for it. Even the most diverse colleges fall many percentages points under the representative average of most races, especially Black and Brown.[/quote]

Total BS. Race is critical in admissions to top 20.[/quote]

Yet there are limited spots.  Everyone believes this check box works magic, but even if an applicant can check the box (name your definition) there are far, far more applicants than seats. If the box disappears it won't make way for all the applicants who's parents are here whining. There will be just as many DCUM many rejections as ever. There are something like [b]300 black students in the Harvard freshman class[/b]. It doesn't matter what your kid has done, there are definitely 300 AA kids in the country who are smarter and more accomplished, that is not controversial. Still, if those students [i]are[/i] somehow pushed aside, there are still thousands of applicants better than yours.  Not gonna happen.[/quote]

NP: There are approximately 160 AA kids in the Harvard freshman class. According to the Students for Fair Admissions brief, the number of AA students would decrease by 50%. Net gain for non-URM applicants would be 80 seats. I don't agree with discrimination against Asian American students but many of the parents on this thread will be disappointed when their kids don't see any differences in acceptance rates after affirmative action.[/quote]

Multipled times every top level school, which will cascade down the rankings.  There really aren't millions of highly qualified students.  It will make a difference.[/quote]

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