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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Now it appears that Ukraine is going to violently and legally retake their land with a little help from some friends.[/quote]

Because friends stand up for underdogs who are being bullied.[/quote]

Lol right [/quote]

Of course you wouldn't understand.  Russians and republicans side with the person doing the bullying[/quote]

You are so cute.[/quote]

Fact that bears repeating:

[quote]Of course you wouldn't understand. Russians and republicans side with the person doing the bullying[/quote]

Calling it "cute" isn't going to change anything.[/quote]

That explains SO much.  Like the American commitment to Israel, Iraq, Libya etc.  Clearly protecting the victim from the bully there.  Tsk tsk. [/quote]

Eh?  
Israel was bullied by Arab neighbors, who literally wanted to wipe them off the face of the map (some of whom still threaten this) but was then built up to defend and fight back.
Do they now bully Palestinians?  Yes, and problematic, but that doesn't take away prior history of being the target of bullying. [b] The US supports Israel's occupation and continued oppression of Palestinians. [/b]

Iraq:  Bullied by Shia sectarianism from Iran, fought back.  Hussein also became a bully (Remember Kuwait?  Remember how badly he treated his own people?) and was smacked down for it.  [b]Along with half a million dead Iraqis after the American invasion - awesome job fighting bullies. [/b]

Libya:  Bully, supported and exported terrorism.  Bullied and threatened genocide against his own people.  Got smacked down for it.  [b]Turned into a terrorism haven once the Americans did their seagull thing - flew in, shat, and flew out.[/b]

But then again, I know brown casualties aren't really human to you unless they were blue-eyed blondes. [/quote]

US has, many times, condemned Israel for its behavior against Palestinians.  US has repeatedly sided with the UN in condemning Israel over violations of UN codes and violations of deals made.  I disagree with the US dumping money into Israel as long as they continue that behavior.  And here's the thing, unlike Russians, we are allowed to disagree with our government, and with Israel's policies, without going to jail for disagreeing. You can't do that in Russia.

As for Iraq and Libya, it is a fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths were not at the hands of Americans, but at the hands of their own countrymen.  Maybe you forgot about events like when lunatic ISIL ideologues murdered 796 Yazidi civilians in a single day on August 12, 2007?

I certainly didn't see anyone else actually stepping up with better solutions and certainly not providing the resources.  Its awful easy to sit in an armchair and navelgaze, pontificate and cast blame without actually ever doing anything to fix anything.

Likewise, it's dishonest and lazy thinking to claim "this is all solely the fault of the US" ignoring the generations and generations of sectarianism, racism, tribal rivalries and other things going back hundreds of years.  The US created a power vacuum, yes - but those tensions and hostilities were always there this whole time, long before the US even got involved.  And let's be honest, any attempts at stabilizing and rebuilding where thwarted by a general lack of basic humanity and civilization, given corruption, dishonesty and betrayal, plus ISIS and other violent, homicidal, genocidal lunatic groups in the mix.   And again, I didn't see any of the self-righteous critics of the US coming up with any better solutions.[/quote]

DP but my solution would be to leave the countries alone instead of trying to support the “right” regime. At least let’s open our eyes and see that it’s not done for democracy or common good or anything else ethical or philosophical.
It’s done to support the regime that is perceived as easier to deal with, in the interests of the United States. [/quote] [/quote]

Yeah I guess we should have just left the Nazis alone too.[/quote]

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