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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you want to be really disturbed read this. NSFW

https://reduxx.info/child-sex-mannequins-being-sold-in-auction-house-owned-by-head-of-balenciaga-parent-company/[/quote]

Oh my goodness. This needs a trigger warning. What is going on with this company?????[/quote]

Is this actually real? My God, it’s horrifying if so. Do not click that link. [/quote]

Can you tl/dr it for those of us who don't want to click?[/quote]

I (a) can’t believe these are sentences I am about to type and (b) am not sure how I can even type this without getting Jeff in trouble with advertiser networks, but here goes: Balenciaga is owned by a company, Kering, which is run by François-Henri Pinault. Pinault also had a holding company, Groupe Artémis, which owns Christie’s auction house.

DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE ILL.

Christie’s sells “art” — the term should be used advisedly — by two brothers, Jake and Dinos Chapman. They sell plastic mannequins through Christie’s which are part of a collection called the “F*** Face” collection. The mannequins in the collection feature grotesquely deformed children with genitalia in place of their facial features. For example, a toddler with an open a*** where his mouth would normally be and an erect p**** for a nose, or toddler conjoined children with open vag***s. Do not click the link. It is stomach-turning.

More information not in the article:

Pinault apparently owns some of the brothers’ work but not from this collection. The brothers were nominated for a Turner Prize in 2003. In 2008 they released art in which they took watercolors painted by Hitler and (by Jake’s own words) “prettified” them. Jake has spoken publicly about how the boys that murdered Liverpool toddler James Bulger performed a “good social service.”  In 2014 Jake spoke out about taking children to art galleries because “children are not human yet.” Female journalists reporting negatively on the brothers have reported receiving death threats from the brothers.

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huh. thank you.

boy, you know, i remember back in the 90s when people were going crazy about the piss christ and i really scoffed at them. but this seems designed to challenge those of us who thought we were too worldly to be upset about art. it sounds horrible. [/quote]

Former art museum employee here. I saw the Piss Christ and dung exhibit. I pretty much felt that Piss Christ and other works were crude but fell under free speech. I feel the same way about almost all controversial art. It is free speech. Even if I don't like it, it has value in documenting human expression.

However, the Chapman brothers' art is utterly vile. Theses sick ideas should not be condoned by allowing them in the public sphere. I'm sure these ideas will be expressed by pedophiles somewhere, somehow but they should not be given legitimacy.[/quote]

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