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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've been watching this thread grow to 15+ pages with some incredulity, given the state of college apps in 2022. Why do posters think this student particularly has a chance at any of these schools? It feels like other threads are all piling on, saying "no chance" even to kids with stellar stats. I have one of these students in my house and we are playing it very, very safe with applications. I wouldn't presume any of these schools are possible without a very spiky talent or hook. Maybe I've been reading too many DCUM College threads![/quote]

No chance is a bit harsh. [b]There are less than 1000 salutatorians in the country who have a 1580+ SAT or equivalent ACT.[/b] OP's son is also well-rounded and has leadership along with national level awards according to OP. His son should be competitive for these schools, of course no guarantees he gets into any of them.[/quote]

Where does the "less than 1000 salutatorians" come from?  There are 26,727 high schools in the US.  I bet there are a lot of salutatorians with a SAT above 1550 which is not much different 1580.  [/quote]

The vast, vast majority of these schools are in uncompetitive areas where the salutatorian/valedictorian are going to test rather poorly just like the rest of their school. A 1580 is over 99th percentile on the SAT, less than 1000 salutatorians with a score like that is reasonable.[/quote]

This is such a stupid statement . Less than 1000 my ass[/quote]

It seems reasonable. There are only ~4000 people who score a 1580 or higher. Most schools don't have salutatorians, and the most of the ones that do are not competitive schools anyways. 1000 people seems fair.[/quote]

Is it roughly 4000 each time the test is administered or per year?  If each time it’s administered, the total number of kids each year with that score will be probably 20,000.
I do agree though that many schools don’t rank and thus don’t name salutatorians and that at many schools the top students won’t have such a high score. [/quote]

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