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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've been watching this thread grow to 15+ pages with some incredulity, given the state of college apps in 2022. Why do posters think this student particularly has a chance at any of these schools? It feels like other threads are all piling on, saying "no chance" even to kids with stellar stats. I have one of these students in my house and we are playing it very, very safe with applications. I wouldn't presume any of these schools are possible without a very spiky talent or hook. Maybe I've been reading too many DCUM College threads![/quote]

No chance is a bit harsh. [b]There are less than 1000 salutatorians in the country who have a 1580+ SAT or equivalent ACT.[/b] OP's son is also well-rounded and has leadership along with national level awards according to OP. His son should be competitive for these schools, of course no guarantees he gets into any of them.[/quote]

Where does the "less than 1000 salutatorians" come from?  There are 26,727 high schools in the US.  I bet there are a lot of salutatorians with a SAT above 1550 which is not much different 1580.  [/quote]

The vast, vast majority of these schools are in uncompetitive areas where the salutatorian/valedictorian are going to test rather poorly just like the rest of their school. A 1580 is over 99th percentile on the SAT, less than 1000 salutatorians with a score like that is reasonable.[/quote]

So, no source?[/quote]

https://www.prepscholar.com/sat/s/scores/1580-SAT-score-is-this-good#:~:text=1580%20SAT%20Score%20Standings&text=Out%20of%20the%202.13%20million,same%20or%20higher%20than%20you.&text=You%20can%20apply%20to%201498,good%20shot%20at%20getting%20admitted.&text=You%20have%20a%20very%20low,0%20schools%20with%20this%20score.

Out of 2.13 million test takers, 3,260 kids scored the same or higher than a 1580. Not all of these kids are going to be salutatorian.[/quote]

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