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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What EC wins the admission game? Fencing? Women’s crew? Squash?[/quote]

Being a recruited athlete definitely helps. [b]But the recruited athletes at schools like Harvard, Duke, and Princeton are also extremely qualified.[/b] In some cases, the athletes perform better than most of the student body academically. The big exceptions would be Duke's major D1 sports like basketball, football, etc. But if we're talking non-athletics, do a summer program like RSI or do research that gets recognized by Regeneron.[/quote]

the age-old DCUM lie. Harvard admissions data is very clear that recruited athletes academic ratings are substantially inferior to those of other admitted students.[/quote]

Is it a problem for schools to choose to admit some people with slightly lower GPAs and/or test scores if they are also in the top few percent at something the university, its community, and alumni base value? I don't see it as an issue as long as the students are contributing to campus life and earning their degrees. Most of these schools could fill multiple classes of students with just near perfect GPAs and scores but have intentionally not wanted to be so myopic.

At elite colleges, athletes themselves have also turned out pretty well as donors in many cases (see D3 athletes like the Koch brothers at MIT and Kravis at Claremont McKenna).[/quote]

it's not a problem at all. The problem is pretending these recruits are on the same academic footing as other admits when they are not even close while at the same time trumpeting that other hooked groups are academically deficient.

The fact that athletes and donors turn out pretty well is meaningless because the more academically qualified students they displace could have done equally well.[/quote]

Oh poor baby’s feelings are hurt because they spent every waking hour in the library with nothing to show for it [/quote]

except for their stanford diploma, you are correct. But the reality is that you can mock me and my kid all you want, but the undeniable fact remains, despite best efforts to whitewash the truth, that athletic recruits to elite colleges are less academically qualified than their fellow admits. and i don't use the word 'whitewash' randomly.

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