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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting. There were no actual purchasers for Dawkins’ best-selling books. People turn off their TVs when he comes on. Nobody attends his many, many lectures.

You people are despicable, trying to downplay his role in atheism in order to wave your hands at his support for pedophila. [/quote]

Okay, Dawkins is as bad as all the religious organizations that supported child abusers and the religious sexual abusers. I agree with you. He is a terrible person. NAMBLA is also terrible and should be disallowed and its members prosecuted. In fact, I fully support the complete disbanding and dissolution of any organizations that have supported, hidden, caused, or contributed to sexual abuse, and the full prosecution of the members who committed abuse.

Now, if you truly are against child sexual abuse, please say the same thing. Please commit to supporting the complete dissolution of any organizations that supported, hid, or otherwise caused child sexual abuse, and the prosecution of its members.

But you won’t, because you actually support child sexual abuse in religious organizations, which is vile. Your refusal to support the complete dissolution of any child-molesting organizations is despicable. You are disgusting. [/quote]

I’ve said many, many time on this thread that church sexual abuse is terrible. I called it “horrific” just a page ago. Even though I’m not Catholic or LDS or whoever else and this isn’t my wheelhouse.

How many times do I need to say this? I already suspected you don’t read posts that don’t support your existing biases, and this confirms it.

By contrast, it’s taken pages to get even one of you to say Dawkins might not be a solid citizen, and at least one of you is still going with “Dawkins who? not my problem.”[/quote]

You are avoiding the question. Do you support the immediate and complete dissolution of any organizations that have supported, hidden, or otherwise tolerated child sexual abuse? Yes or no question and it’s a straightforward one. [/quote]

Yes, answer this question.

The church (many different offshoots as well) systematically, and have a well documented, history of downplaying, discrediting victims, and shuffling around pedophile priests to other parishes, where they repeat offend. This is not a secret. Read some of the cases from the massive investigations of the last few years. So many priests were simply quietly moved from one church to another. There was so much forgiveness from senior clergy so as not to embarrass the church. It only took massive pressure and media attention for any real transparency.

So you come on here bashing nambla, which we are all aware is disgusting and shouldn’t exist, but you won’t say the same about pedophile hiding Catholicism, or Ted Haggard harboring, or all the other church related stuff? Why won’t you disavow an organization with such a poor track record and so much damage done to some many children? [/quote]

She answered it. She supports keeping organizations intact that support pedophilia so long as they are called “churches.” It is a morally disgusting position of course, but that is her belief. [/quote]

Are you proud of being a lying troll? [/quote]

She’s not a lying troll. That poster indicated it’s “better to work from within” when comes to church and pedophila rather than to disband them if they are rotten enough, which from all the hiding of perverts, cover ups, abuse of power and the like, would be the best course of action. I’m sorry you don’t like to hear that, but that poster has not directly called for disavowing and closing church’s with pedophile problems, so there is a double standard.[/quote]

Stop lying. The poster never mentioned churches. She probably knew better than to engage too deeply with lying trolls. [/quote]

The poster never answered the question of whether church’s should be closed from pedophila. Should church’s that hide pedophiles be closed? It’s really simple. Nambla should close if it’s caught molesting. The church in many of its parishes was caught with staff that molested millions of children. Why should they be allowed to stay open and “work from within”? It’s a very simple question. Explain the dichotomy to me so I can understand. Discuss why one is more deserving pf staying open than the other? And justify it with reason please.[/quote]

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