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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting. There were no actual purchasers for Dawkins’ best-selling books. People turn off their TVs when he comes on. Nobody attends his many, many lectures. You people are despicable, trying to downplay his role in atheism in order to wave your hands at his support for pedophila. [/quote] Okay, Dawkins is as bad as all the religious organizations that supported child abusers and the religious sexual abusers. I agree with you. He is a terrible person. NAMBLA is also terrible and should be disallowed and its members prosecuted. In fact, I fully support the complete disbanding and dissolution of any organizations that have supported, hidden, caused, or contributed to sexual abuse, and the full prosecution of the members who committed abuse. Now, if you truly are against child sexual abuse, please say the same thing. Please commit to supporting the complete dissolution of any organizations that supported, hid, or otherwise caused child sexual abuse, and the prosecution of its members. But you won’t, because you actually support child sexual abuse in religious organizations, which is vile. Your refusal to support the complete dissolution of any child-molesting organizations is despicable. You are disgusting. [/quote] I’ve said many, many time on this thread that church sexual abuse is terrible. I called it “horrific” just a page ago. Even though I’m not Catholic or LDS or whoever else and this isn’t my wheelhouse. How many times do I need to say this? I already suspected you don’t read posts that don’t support your existing biases, and this confirms it. By contrast, it’s taken pages to get even one of you to say Dawkins might not be a solid citizen, and at least one of you is still going with “Dawkins who? not my problem.”[/quote] You are avoiding the question. Do you support the immediate and complete dissolution of any organizations that have supported, hidden, or otherwise tolerated child sexual abuse? Yes or no question and it’s a straightforward one. [/quote] Yes, answer this question. The church (many different offshoots as well) systematically, and have a well documented, history of downplaying, discrediting victims, and shuffling around pedophile priests to other parishes, where they repeat offend. This is not a secret. Read some of the cases from the massive investigations of the last few years. So many priests were simply quietly moved from one church to another. There was so much forgiveness from senior clergy so as not to embarrass the church. It only took massive pressure and media attention for any real transparency. So you come on here bashing nambla, which we are all aware is disgusting and shouldn’t exist, but you won’t say the same about pedophile hiding Catholicism, or Ted Haggard harboring, or all the other church related stuff? Why won’t you disavow an organization with such a poor track record and so much damage done to some many children? [/quote] OMFG. 1. Atheist sexual misconduct isn’t just about NAMBLA. Stop hiding behind NAMBLA, it’s cowardly and dishonest. 2. Multiple people including me have condemned religious pedophilia on this thread. Despite the fact that this isn’t a thread about religious abuse and there are plenty of DCUM threads about religious abuse already. 3. If you really want to talk about religion and abuse, stop trying to derail this thread and instead start yet another thread on that. See if you get any takers who think discussing the issue with dishonest trolls would be a productive use of their time. [/quote] You kicked off this thread with a focus on nambla, so I’m not “hiding behind” anything. Got any more super great example of atheist pedophiles? Let’s hear em? Hitler? Mussolini? We’re all breathless waiting for you to expound on the millions of atheist pedophiles. I mean we’re over in reality, presenting you endless tangible and verified cases of church led pedophilia, but would really like to see what aces up your sleeve you’ve got. We all agree Dawkins is a piece of sht, I guess. His comment was gross, but at least there is no proof he actually molested a child unlike all the priest stories in the news linked in includes in previous threads, but please post your atheist figures. We’ll wait. Or we’re you just starting a thread with a shoddy example because you’re playing 4d chess?[/quote] I kicked off this thread with a focus on the two atheist orgs that employed the predator, Dawkins, Harris, and then NAMBLA1. Everybody can read the first page of the thread, so you should probably stop lying. Stop trying to derail this thread to talk about religion. There are already plenty of threads talking about religious abuse, or start your own new one. You look dishonest again, and pathetic.[/quote] Lol. Sounds like you’re unhappy that the evidence is lopsided and not in the way you’d like, so all of a sudden it’s “derailing” to point that out. Goal post moving at its finest. Again, Dawkins doesn’t lead sht. He wrote like three books that did well with the public and then caused a stir when he literally said “mild pedophilia is okay”. A normal person, even an atheist, can see that that’s gross. He does not lead atheism, and it’s pathetic you’re so poorly informed to think that. And then you have nambla, but you can’t even give us an example of them being in the news or even their membership count. I agree with you they should be disbanded. And then you give one more example of “Harris’”, and he is also not a leader of atheism. Because there really are no leaders. I mean maybe the executive director of the humanist society could be considered something of a champion for atheism, but really I’m just annoyed that you have such a pas poor set of taking points. Really you have nothing of substance to undergird your argument. It’s fluff. And then you get petulant when I bring up the millions of kids molested by the church and you can’t handle it. The real problem is the church and not this nebulous foe of pedophole atheists which you have not properly quantified or proven. So do better okay?[/quote]
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