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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, different situation entirely but similar in the way that no one was willing to back down.  A guy from my high school in northern virginia was, like 15 years ago, walking down the street in Philly at like 1am after going to some bars when he was 22 or 23.  He ended up in an altercation with a group of other young men who were also leaving the bars.  Unclear how it started, I think the other group was swinging from a piece of scaffolding and the guy from my high school (his name was Gerald Ung, you can look up this case) bumped into them initially, by mistake?  Anyways it was the same sort of thing where Gerald did try to walk away a few times, the bigger group kept following him, and then finally Gerald stopped walking away and brandished a gun at them, and then one of the other group ran up to him to attack him and Gerald shot him.  (The guy survived but was very seriously hurt).

There was a trial, and Gerald was found not guilty based on his self defense claim, even though he was the only one who had a weapon and he brandished the weapon at the group. Because the other group was trying to escalate the situation/ follow him, and he only shot them once they ran at him [b](although of course they only ran at him because he brandished a gun, probably[/b]).  But he was able to argue that he feared for his life and he had tried to retreat but was followed.   And he got off.

I wonder if Mr miu will also be able to claim he tried to retreat and only came back because he kept being harassed? [/quote]

Why in the world would anyone run at someone brandishing a gun? This really seems like natural selection at work, sorry.[/quote]
They were probably drunk as a skunk and not thinking straight.[/quote]

I don't know why the teenagers are getting a bad rap. Sounds like the group of 20 somethings who intervened bore the brunt of it. They tried to help out when Miu was harassing the teens and they called for help and he flipped out when he realized he was outnumbered. Miu started and ended this whole situation. [/quote]

Are there more than those two links in this thread? This doesn't sound like what I read.[/quote]

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