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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a great Atlantic article explaining why city life got so expensive. In a nutshell, folks have been keeping costs artificially low. Honestly look at major cities in the world, all are very expensive. (Paris, London etc).

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/06/uber-ride-share-prices-high-inflation/661250/

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I’m going to guess that the love affair with urbanism is going to slowly die out once people living in urban areas no longer have their lifestyles subsidized by Private Equity.

The advent of “walkable” suburbs will do the rest, because you get the best conveniences of both, in terms of being able to walk and use your car. [/quote]

People have wanted to live in cities since before Uber and Door Dash …[/quote]
When was that exactly?

It’s funny how I see a lot of urbanists talk about how much the suburbs are subsidized. Let’s see how well cities fare once city residents have to pay the full cost of city convenience. I’m going to guess that people really like cheap servants more than they like cities specifically. [/quote]

Do people not use money-losing car share and delivery services in the suburbs or something?[/quote]
When did people want to live in cities before Doordash? The “urban revival” following the white flight and hollowing out of cities directly correlated with the rise of these Private Equity urban lifestyle subsidies. [/quote]

This sounds completely backwards. Isn't Doordash something that is used by people who can't walk to get food? I lived in Shaw before Doordash and when I wanted something I would.... walk to get it? I get a lot more delivery now in the suburbs.[/quote]
LOL. The food delivery companies give you immediate access to the restaurants of the entire city. If you lived car-less in Shaw but had a hankering for Sushi Taro, what were your options? How much is that convenience worth to you? And how much does it make the city “livable” that you have access to the amenities of the entire city?
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It makes the city as livable as getting delivery in the suburbs. [/quote]
If you’re in the suburbs, you can choose to pay for delivery or fetch your food yourself with little hassle. If your in the city, fetching it yourself is obviously not convenient with or without a car, so your convenient lifestyle has been subsidized by private equity and the cost of that lifestyle are going up. I’m not sure why it’s hard for you to understand.

I hope you like your “15 minute city”, because convenient amenities will be more important than ever now to maintain the quality of city living standards. [/quote]

this is such an absolutely stupid new goalpost. no, nobody is moving to the suburbs because we can’t get door dash anymore.

the real issue is decay in public transport in part due to uber reducing incentives to use it … but you’re no doubt hysterically opposed to buses too. [/quote]
You have misperception of what is going on here because you prefer to live in fantasies and a world of online pile ons than the real world where the rest of us live. The reality that have to confront is that the price of living in the city is going up to maintain the same living standards/quality of services/amenities on every metric. Housing is going up. Taxes are going up. Services are getting more expensive. This obviously affects the value proposition of living in the city which will affect the future choices of a lot of people. [/quote]

Oh yes.  The reality is that we're all going to flee to the suburbs because Door Dash got more expensive ...

BTW how much money do you think I've saved over my life by living in cities and never having to own a car?  Since time is money, how much time have I saved by living a 20 minute commute from my office?[/quote]
Any financial savings you may have gained from lack of personal car ownership were likely captured in higher costs of housing and services. [/quote]

Forgot to add I'm also very cheap on rent ... and I don't think my increased cost of services really amounts to much.  What do I pay more for?  Maybe I could get the cleaners for cheaper out in the burbs, but pretty sure that that would not be more than the cost of car insurance for me. [/quote]

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