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[quote=BlueFredneck]Would Putin settle for a relationship with Ukraine similar to that which the USSR had with Finland during the Cold War? Putin, I would hope, has no stomach for occupying Ukraine from Kiev on west, outside of some small area in SE Ukraine where pro-Russia sentiment runs strongest. Quite frankly, once he gets past Kiev, it will be a fight for national survival for the Ukrainians, and even east of Kiev, there's enough anti-Russian sentiment to make any wide-ranging occupation damned near impossible. Would Lviv (heartland of the anti-Russian forces in Ukraine) be willing to accept a partition where the eastern part joins Russia/becomes like Kazakhstan and the western part goes down the NATO road that Albania and North Macedonia have chosen? Likewise, I hope Biden doesn't want Ukraine as it is currently constituted to join NATO. Ukraine's per capita GDP is 70% that of Albania (the next-poorest NATO member) and under half that of Turkey. Its corruption is near-endemic, and domestic opinion is really and truly split. Albania has historically been more supportive of the US than the US (a class in which I'd put Poland and the Baltic Republics, and in Asia Vietnam and the Philippines.) Ukraine on the other hand is split between a western half that's in the more supportive of the US than the US, and an eastern half that wants to be like Kazakhstan or part of Russia itself. In the 2004 election, Yanukovich got over 85% of the vote in the currently occupied zones, and Yushchenko got a similar percentage in far western Ukraine. I have my doubts that sentiments have really changed. A lot of left-establishment and right-establishment Westerners express shock that people around the world would prefer alternative leadership models. A lot of left-populist and right-populist Westerners express shock that other people around the world would prefer Western-style liberal democracy. [/quote]
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