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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I sincerely hope that with the push to end Roe that it will also turn on IVF.  I mean isn't that what pro-lifers want?  Life begins at conception.  IVF isn't even really conception right?  So no  more IVF.  Or at the minimum rich white women/couples are forced to carry to term embryos that are deemed not viable for life.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1018662.page [/quote]

I know it's childish but this works for me, the people making these decisions and the crowd who is (very easily) swaying them all generally start families later in life, it comes with the territory. So let's takeaway their back up plan.[/quote]

+10000 - you don't get to preach and blabber on about the "sanctity of life" and then throw away embryos.   [/quote]

All of this. Let's also destroy every single existing frozen embryo.  IVF should not be an option anymore (and if anyone cares about their IVF babies, and you associate with any individual who associates with anyone who supports anti-abortion, I completely intend the cruelty and callousness of this statement to hurt you as much as possible).[/quote]

That’s what Poland has done, sort of.

[i][b]“The latest woman to die for absolutely no reason was a 30-year-old being identified only as Izabela, a Polish mother of a little girl. She was 22 weeks pregnant and, it seems, wanted to have a second child. But her fetus that lacked amniotic fluid, dooming the pregnancy.

The hospital refused to give her an abortion. She died of sepsis — a lethal infection that can occur when an embryo or fetus dies and isn’t expelled or removed from the body.

Poland is currently under the control of conservative Catholic authoritarians, and they changed the nation’s already-restrictive abortion law last year to be even stricter, deeming unconstitutional abortions in the case of severe fetal abnormality (abortion was already only legal for fetal abnormality and in cases where the pregnant woman was raped or her life was at risk). And it’s not just abortion. Because the Catholic Church does not condone IVF, a conservative Catholic party in Poland also tried to ban an array of fertility procedures. They succeeded in brokering a cruel compromise: Only married or cohabitating heterosexual couples are legally allowed to get IVF procedures in Poland. Single women who want full custody of and responsibility for any child they might have through IVF aren’t just barred from starting the process — they are not entitled to their own frozen embryos.”[/b][/i]
https://jill.substack.com/p/abortion-ban-kills-a-young-mother-c8c
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/when-the-government-seizes-your-embryos[/quote]

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