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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“The framework has been decided on.”

The “framework” had also been decided on in September, back when the Senate and House agreed to a $3.5T framework. That was the whole purpose of Pelosi promising a 9/27 vote to the moderates, for their support of the framework.

Look where that got us.

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Incorrect. There was never an agreed upon framework with budget cost. There was never clarity what programs would be included. There is no but until Manchin and Sinema give better assurances there is no reason for Progressives to give up their leverage. They WANT both bills to pass. That’s why they were willing to comprise from 6 t, to 3.5 t to 1.7 t.  Potus and Progressives have given up a ton while corporate Dems have whittled the bills down to a pittance. The bills are still good, but not what we need.

Think about this: Democrats know they need to deliver something yet they need to have the votes of Manchin and Sinama who are absolutely willing to go home with nothing. Just like the GOP, They do. Not. Care.[/quote]

Seems to me that there are more Senators AGAINST the boondoggle bill than for it.  
Why should the progressives (an oxymoron, IMO) get what THEY want when the majority totally disagree with their demands?  
And, if you think $1.7 is a pittance, you are really, really bad at math.  [/quote]

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