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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For a year I was paying attention to red pill / MGTOW videos.   A thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the videos actually give some advice to men about relationship traps to avoid.   Things like narcissisms, daddy issues, dating women with children, dealing with "CHADs".   A lot of it not anti-women per se, it is more about identifying and avoiding poor relationships.    Yes, the next step is become a womanizer or relationship vampire who sucks women's most valuable years away.  So, be careful about that.  But it doesn't mean he is there yet.[/quote]

Sounds a lot like the highly-criticized dating book for women “The Rules,” except for men.[/quote]

I owned a copy of “The Rules.”  I liked it.  I didn’t find it anti-men.  The premise was that every woman can find a man, and you only need one.

It gives good advice like, dress neatly, be nice, pick up some co-Ed hobbies, tell your friends you are looking for someone, don’t move in together if what you really want is to get married, don’t keep nagging him to ask what he is thinking,  etc.

And the basic premise is that there is a lid for every pot.  Every woman can find a mate if she puts herself out there, and you only need one.

The Red Pill seems to be that only some men can find a mate, and those men have their pick of all of the women.  [/quote]

They're both rigid "rules" based on gender dynamics, so to that extent, they are similar.  But The Rules does not have the same undertone of animus towards the opposite sex. [/quote]

It is that universal/ true for every male who follows Red Pill / MGTOW?  Or are those ideas more of a spectrum - from mild to extreme?[/quote]

It’s pretty universal.  The premise is based on anger.  
It’s not, “there are a lot of great women out there, and marriage and children can be a wonderful part of life, so here’s how to find a wonderful woman to be your life partner.” 
It’s “women don’t like you because they are shallow hypocrites who only like this type of guy.  Here is how to be this kind of guy and trick them into liking you.”  [/quote]

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