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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The thing to me is that we only know what we know. Science has deemed XX as female, and XY as male, but we do know that even genetically, there are many intersex states. [b]We don’t test people for their genetics unless there appears to be ambiguous genitalia or the like.[/b] We do know that hormone exposure in uterine can cause. We have no idea about if other genetic expressions can make a difference, because [b]pretty much the only thing we base sex on is genitalia. 
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Science is science only as long as it’s known. That’s the cool thing. It’s constantly evolving and changing, and thinking we know now what we will know is just ignorant at best. So the people using “but, science” as an argument that trans people just have something wrong in their heads don’t understand science at all, IMHO. The world was flat until it wasn’t. Pluto was a planet until it wasn’t. You got sick from a miasma, until we knew about germs.[/quote]

Not true. These days most women get routine genetic testing when they're pregnant, including to determine the chromosomal sex of the baby. [/quote]

I got tested, and I don’t see my XX on there anywhere?

In any case, yes, fetuses are now being tested more. But that doesn’t discount that chromosomal sex may not be all there is to know about how people *feel* about their sex. It certainly doesn’t always explain ambiguous genetalia.

The biggest issue is that the gender construct has become so interwoven with sex that it’s hard to differentiate. You need only go visit the parenting board to see the difference in expectations from birth - eg. Boys are hellions, girls potty train early, etc. FFS, people are celebrating and planning their kids gender and how they will raise them before they’re even born, with blue and pink, pistol and pearl parties. Look at these threads - I don’t know if it’s this one or the job one, but where people are describing “butch” lesbians. Like really? So women are butch, but men are just men, and we wonder why people feel the need to express themselves as trans, one way or the other? They cannot remove themselves from being a woman and being butch, but can find their place as a normal man? Well heck, yeah, sign pretty much anyone up. No one honestly wants the hard road. They want to live their lives and to be happy. It may have to do with behaviour, genitalia, whatever... but why do you feel the need to assign them their happiness because of their genes?

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